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Old 02-12-2019, 10:53 AM   #1
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Truck/Travel Trailer Towing Scenario

Hello! Thank you all for having this site and taking time to answer everyone’s questions. I wanted to run a truck/travel trailer scenario by you all to get your opinion before I purchase this used travel trailer directly from an owner. Our family recently sold our 2007 Rockwood Roo 21RS and are looking to upgrade to a larger camper to accommodate a growing family.

According to my calculations, I am within the perimeters of pulling this camper, but wanted to make sure as I’ve been reading different articles online about towing this size trailer with a ˝ ton. Thanks for any thoughts, comments, or suggestions!!!
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2014 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab 4x4 6’6” bed (EcoTec3 5.3L, 3.42 Axel Ration, Factory Trailer Brake Package installed)- using an Equal-i-zer Weight Distribution System w/ 4 point sway control- 10,000lbs GTW, 1,000lbs TW
Curb Weight of truck: 5292
GVWR of truck: 7200
GCVWR: 15000
Payload capacity of truck: 1883
Towing Capacity: 9500
Based upon: https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/che...pecs.html#crew

Estimated Payload in Truck
Passengers: 450 (me, my wife, small child, dog)
Cargo: 350 (went a little heavy just to be safe, usually we have coolers, firewood, bin of toys)
Total payload (minus hitch weight): 800

Travel Trailer
2011 Coachman Catalina 28DDS
Unloaded Vehicle Weight: 6042
GVWR: 7700
Hitch/tongue weight: 748
For reference, when we pulled our last camper we never pulled it with water in the travel trailer and our additional cargo weight in our last camper never came close to exceeding 1,000 lbs, however with a larger camper and more storage we may place close to 1,000 lbs in weight in the camper.

When calculating my numbers I see that I still have 335 lbs of available payload in the truck (less fuel), GVW for the truck is 6,840, GCVW is 13,792 (including GVWR of 7700), and that I am under my towing capacity of 9500. My family’s safety is important to me which is why I ask about pulling this trailer. We live in eastern MO and the most we would travel with this camper is locally within 4 hours of our home so no long steep inclines or declines up mountains. Also, any comments on gross axle weight rating would be appreciated as well!
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:14 AM   #2
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This write up is good, but i think you need to make sure your payload is correct. Check your driver side door sticker
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:17 AM   #3
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Hello! Thank you all for having this site and taking time to answer everyone’s questions. I wanted to run a truck/travel trailer scenario by you all to get your opinion before I purchase this used travel trailer directly from an owner. Our family recently sold our 2007 Rockwood Roo 21RS and are looking to upgrade to a larger camper to accommodate a growing family.

According to my calculations, I am within the perimeters of pulling this camper, but wanted to make sure as I’ve been reading different articles online about towing this size trailer with a ˝ ton. Thanks for any thoughts, comments, or suggestions!!!
Truck
2014 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab 4x4 6’6” bed (EcoTec3 5.3L, 3.42 Axel Ration, Factory Trailer Brake Package installed)- using an Equal-i-zer Weight Distribution System w/ 4 point sway control- 10,000lbs GTW, 1,000lbs TW
Curb Weight of truck: 5292
GVWR of truck: 7200
GCVWR: 15000
Payload capacity of truck: 1883
Towing Capacity: 9500
Based upon: https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/che...pecs.html#crew

Estimated Payload in Truck
Passengers: 450 (me, my wife, small child, dog)
Cargo: 350 (went a little heavy just to be safe, usually we have coolers, firewood, bin of toys)
Total payload (minus hitch weight): 800

Travel Trailer
2011 Coachman Catalina 28DDS
Unloaded Vehicle Weight: 6042
GVWR: 7700
Hitch/tongue weight: 748
For reference, when we pulled our last camper we never pulled it with water in the travel trailer and our additional cargo weight in our last camper never came close to exceeding 1,000 lbs, however with a larger camper and more storage we may place close to 1,000 lbs in weight in the camper.

When calculating my numbers I see that I still have 335 lbs of available payload in the truck (less fuel), GVW for the truck is 6,840, GCVW is 13,792 (including GVWR of 7700), and that I am under my towing capacity of 9500. My family’s safety is important to me which is why I ask about pulling this trailer. We live in eastern MO and the most we would travel with this camper is locally within 4 hours of our home so no long steep inclines or declines up mountains. Also, any comments on gross axle weight rating would be appreciated as well!
you can help the trucks payload by storing more things in TT like the coolers etc.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:20 AM   #4
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If you want to see the real cargo capacity and tow rating of your exact truck, skip the online charts and go look at the sticker inside the driver's door of your actual truck.

Those are the only numbers to use.

Also, forget about dry weight of the camper...

That number doesn't mean squat!

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Old 02-12-2019, 11:28 AM   #5
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As others have said, check your door sticker for the actual payload rating of your truck.

The other number that I would question is the hitch weight. The listed, unloaded trailer's hitch weight is 748. Add gear, propane and batteries on the front and its likely closer to 950. Also, for a fair guess, use 13% of the GVW. 7700 x 13% = 1,001.

Also don't forget the weight of the hitch itself at about 75 pounds.

Passengers: 450
Cargo: 350
Equalizer: 75
Tongue weight: 1001

All that equals 1,876
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:49 AM   #6
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I doubt that 2014 has 11883 payload with the weak V 8 engine, a Ford F 150 with Ecoboost has 1900 to 2000 lbs.
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I doubt that 2014 has 11883 payload with the weak V 8 engine, a Ford F 150 with Ecoboost has 1900 to 2000 lbs.
Payload has very little to do with engine power.

In fact, a more powerful diesel powered truck has a much smaller payload compared to the same truck with a gas engine.

My old ecoboost had a payload of only 1529....plenty of power though.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:54 PM   #8
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I put 1883
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Since you are at the outer limits of the truck at 1st blush, it is time to start refining. Get the exact GVWR from the sticker on the TT. From the CCC on your TV door sticker, subtract anything you installed: cap, bed liner, nerf bars, etc. and the WDH weight. Compare that result to 15% of the TT's GVWR. If you are out of payload compare the loaded weight to the axle and tire ratings.

Regardless of whether or not you are over payload, realize that you have no more margin. No margin for error or for safety. At that loading, you will want to change rear end and transmission fluids and filter much more frequently than recommended.
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After you think you know where you are weight wise, go to a scale (Like a Cat Scale) and weigh. You might be surprised.

Do this loaded like you are heading to camp.


https://catscale.com/how-to-weigh/
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