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Old 10-25-2015, 02:16 PM   #41
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Couple things.....
First- i just sold my '05 dmax with 134,000 miles. Was a good truck, got warm once about 3 years ago and installed new OEM thermostats and new OEM fan cluch. I also always changed my air, fuel and spin on tranny filter right around 5,000 miles. Didnt cost that much and im very anal about maintenance and working at dealerships all the filters were about $100. Had current flashes on all the ecm's and did the water pump about 2 months ago. When i listed it for sale at a grand over book my phone blew up with interest.
2nd--- after working in a shop for years (on commission ) labor rates are reflective of the cost of everything else these days. And my scanner was about $4,800 and requires updates twice a year at a little over $600 each unless they have a promo. Add the laptop and interface cables, subscriptions to every manuf. That you work on so you can program computers and your looking at major $$$$. Plus all the specialized tools that are only used every once in a while and continued training that is required.......plus Insurance.....and rent and...then someone screws something up occasionally.
Dont get me wrong, i do very well, but you get what you pay for these days. Ol' jim bob's garage might throw a bunch of parts at something trying to fix it, and it cost you $6-700 and still not right, but a little better, where if you took it to the dealer, you might be out $150-250 because there was an updated flash that will fix it.
.....just sayin'.......rant on guys!
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:21 PM   #42
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Sorry about your luck op. Not knowing the history of your truck, you would probably be wise to do everything at once. I was fortunate enough to have all the prior history of my '05 since it was serviced at the dealer i worked at, and then also had impeccable maintenance and records kept of it for the 7+ years i had it.
I'll say the '05 was good but the 06 and 07 were the best, of course the current is pretty good too, but they dont give them away
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:27 PM   #43
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If you have pride in your work...and knowledge, can be fixed in hell or where-ever....building doesn't make a mechanic. Electronics has just made lazy people lazier.
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Old 10-25-2015, 02:58 PM   #44
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If you have pride in your work...and knowledge, can be fixed in hell or where-ever....building doesn't make a mechanic. Electronics has just made lazy people lazier.

Nope.
Not when that shifting problem is only a simple flash to fix.
If you don't have the scanner to flash it, no matter how many parts billy Bob throws at it, it ain't gonna be fixed.


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Old 10-25-2015, 03:15 PM   #45
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on the other side of the coin, if it doesnt throw a code nowadays there is nothing they will do for you.
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Old 10-25-2015, 03:23 PM   #46
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on the other side of the coin, if it doesnt throw a code nowadays there is nothing they will do for you.
Maybe the guy at O'Reillys.
You can look at your data stream and look at parameters and voltage to see where a problem lies.
You cant fix a computer unless you have a screen or another computer to look at it. And these days there maybe 1 to 2 dozen computers on a vehicle.
To achieve everything that epa wants, and have reliability, you have to have everything ran just perfect to achieve clean fuel mileage and computers are they only way they are achieving it.
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Your both right....nobody wants to hook a gauge up anymore, just plug er in!
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Old 10-25-2015, 03:34 PM   #48
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If you have pride in your work...and knowledge, can be fixed in hell or where-ever....building doesn't make a mechanic. Electronics has just made lazy people lazier.
Lazy....Not really, just takes some of the "knuckle draggers" or "red necks" out of the equation.
Electronics help me work SMARTER, instead of working harder and not achieving a dang thing.
But im also half the age of alot on here, so I've grown up with the technology and use it as it comes out.
And sorry, but for what the OP is having done, its happening IN a shop, not under a tree. And the "building making a mechanic"..... i have no idea where that came from. A service truck or shop, it cost money to operate.
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Well after reading this entire thread and upgraded my TV from a 2001 F350 7.3L that had 133,000 miles and no major issues in its use of towing. I hope my new 2015 Ram 3500 6.7L is as issue free. It tows my 18,000 lb. 5er a lot better and I did get the Aisis tranny that I'm not that impressed with yet but it's nicer than my old 4R100 was.
OP I wish you the best of luck with the rebuild.
For the other fellows, tools aren't cheep and I have a bunch of them and most are specialized tool and meters and I charge a usage fee for them. Commercial and Industrial Air Conditioning. If you think auto mechanics charge a lot call me and you'll think they are cheeply price. Commercial A/C is high tech also. LOL
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Learn the trade, I worked in a few dealerships to get knowledge on more than one 'brand'. This day and age, if electronics is so great, you tell me how to make my national record holding drag race car run quicker. We do it the old 'red-neck/ shade tree way....brains. You have your opinion and I have mine...just different.
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