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Old 07-23-2012, 03:04 PM   #11
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So far, we love the trailer. We fell in love with the roominess and the storage space. Only camped 3 times since we got the trailer in May. The biggest challenge was a trip to Salt Lake City on I-80. It was windy on the trip home. Even though the wind blew us around a bit, trailer and truck was affected as a unit. In other words, no trailer sway. SLC was my first experience of city driving, but just took everything slow and deliberate. We have the 15K air conditioner, and we stayed cool in 100+ temps with grandkids opening and closing the door. The additional length is the most foreign aspect of the trailer, but, again, if I take my time and focus on the job at hand, I seem to do ok. PM me with more questions if you like (no sense boring others with my boasting about our new toy!)
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:16 PM   #12
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Just a couple thoughts to add to an excellent discussion.

1) Remember that the trailer must be under its GVWR disconnected from the TV and sitting on the ground. (IE including tongue weight). This is because even hooked up the trailer's frame "sees" the entire load regardless of how it is distributed.

2) The truck must be under it's max gross weight WITH the entire tongue load on it because the trucks' frame will see the entire weight of everything in it plus the weight of the trailer's tongue. (again regardless of how it winds up being distributed with the WD hitch.

3) The tongue load must fall between 10% and 15% (with the optimum distribution falling at 12.5%) of the disconnected trailer weight for safe handling characteristics (like excessive sway and front end hunting).

A 10,000 pound camper "must" have a 1000 - 1500 pound tongue weight for safety. With an available payload of only 1400 pounds with a 150 pound driver and a tank of gas, you will quickly overload your truck well before you hit your max combined weight.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:35 PM   #13
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Good luck! cant wait to see new pics of rig and trailer when you get em set up!!.....and i dont care what anyone says....buying a trailer that matches your TV and compliments its colors SHOULD be a requisite!
I know what you mean and I agree with you 100% I have always had red trucks. Now because this trailer is tan and black we will have to go with a tan truck. NO WAY we can do black in Phoenix LOL

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Old 07-23-2012, 03:53 PM   #14
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Thanks for the additional clarity. I was pretty sure I was pushing the envelope with this combination but before going to the expense of buying a new truck I wanted to confirm. I wasn't sure of the impact to the calculations from WD utilization and if that would effectively mitigate the hit to the payload capacity. Based on your clarifications above it really doesnít.

Some folks seem to come on BB's looking for justification for taking on too much trailer for a TV. I am not one of those folks. In my youth I had a few experiences with being overloaded (either payload in the truck or badly loaded trailer). At that time I thought I could do anything I wanted and not have any repercussions. As an adult I have realized that not only do I endanger myself and family but others on the road. So thatís a mistake Iíll never make again.

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Old 07-23-2012, 04:43 PM   #15
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I know what you mean and I agree with you 100% I have always had red trucks. Now because this trailer is tan and black we will have to go with a tan truck. NO WAY we can do black in Phoenix LOL

Dan

while west tx is no pheonix, we have our share of 100-105 degree days (51 of them last summer alone) and with night time lows in the upper 80s i sometimes wonder my sanity in picking "tuxedo black metallic" because of its awesomeness factor.....LOL...

in any case, my sanity has been validated with the use of nifty features like "remote start" and "a/c leather seats" coupled with DARK tint, and auto retracting window sunshades!!

not so sure i would be so inclined to attempt that in pheonix.....but then again i do LOVE my truck as is! haah
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:44 PM   #16
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Think of it this way. The WD hitch does not reduce the tongue load it just adjusts the axles that carry it so that the load is evenly distributed among the axles. The WD hitch performs this magic with leverage.

The lever (truck and camper frame) and the fulcrum (the hitch and truck receiver) see the entire load.

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Old 07-23-2012, 05:17 PM   #17
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Think of it this way. The WD hitch does not reduce the tongue load it just adjusts the axles that carry it so that the load is evenly distributed among the axles. The WD hitch performs this magic with leverage.

The lever (truck and camper frame) and the fulcrum (the hitch and truck receiver) see the entire load.

For the engineers out there:
I was software engineer....does that count?

Reality is I couldn't really dance around the numbers by adjusting loads because the hitch weight would definitely exceed the TV's GVWR. Thanks for the analogy. It helps me now fully understand the effects of the WD.
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I was software engineer....does that count?
I was referring to a train engineer ()
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You will find the weights on the spec sheet to be well under the actual weight. Mine is 350 lbs heavier and most is in the hitch. Plus, a good WD hitch is quite heavy. You may be able to keep the overall trailer weight within the limits of the truck but with only 1431 lbs of load capacity for the truck you will very likely be over your rear axle weight rating. The actual hitch weight will most likely exceed 1000 lbs. The actual weight of the truck will surely be more than the specs, too, so there is very little load capacity left. Load capacity is the biggest shortcoming of 1\2 ton trucks-a 3/4 ton will have 3000 lbs or more to work with.
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OK cool...as long as it wasn't a sanitation engineer
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