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Old 09-20-2016, 12:59 PM   #1
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TV wheel hub failure

Hello all. I pull a 2016 Roo 183 with a 2014 Ford Explorer Sport. I've weighed my setup when fully loaded several times in the past year and I'm always within towing specs. My closest numbers are the rear GAWR, usually within 50 pounds of the limit.

Within the past 6 months, I've had to replace both rear wheel hubs on the TV due to premature bearing failures. Has anyone else experienced this kind of failure? Could this be due to towing? The dealer says that bearings just go sometimes and can't tell me if excessive axle weight could be the cause.

Any thoughts? I appreciate the feedback

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Any chance you got the hubs wet - submerged in water?
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Old 09-20-2016, 01:48 PM   #3
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Any chance you got the hubs wet - submerged in water?
Nothing beyond driving through shallow puddles every now and then (no boat).

The only thing that I could think of (other than just bad luck) was that towing was perhaps adding extra stress to the hubs causing them to fail.
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Have you searched for hub failures on any ford forums or explorer forums? If there is some info to support its not just you it I don't know what the next step would be. How many miles have you towed with this truck and how many miles are on it overall? Given that you are so close on the rear weight....likely over depending on what and who you take while traveling with the camper....towing near or slightly over your rear axle rating could very well be the reason for the failure. Good luck.


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Old 09-22-2016, 09:31 AM   #5
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Hi Ryand. Thanks for the response. I have searched for other owners with the same issues and haven't come up with much. I bought it as a certified used vehicle. It was a Ford Executive car for a year before I bought it, so was relatively high mileage. It now has about 55,000 miles on it. I've probably towed about 2,500 miles in the past year and a half.
I've never towed beyond the weight limit of the vehicle. When I was within 50 pounds of the limit, I was fully loaded for camping including people and supplies.

Ford ended up paying for the hub replacement (both times) due to the premature failure. It was not covered under warranty, but I called the corporate offices to complain.
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try replacing your grease with full synthetic
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try replacing your grease with full synthetic

I would imagine that this is not possible, I would think this is a sealed bearing.


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They are sealed bearings
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Is that Explorer a solid axle or independent suspension (aka: IRS)?

More and more of the SUVs are going over to IRS for a better ride but the solid axle is usually more robust. One challenge for the IRS is there is less volume of oil and cooling area for the differential. This becomes a problem in high load situations.

What type of hub failure are you having? Presuming IRS I would anticipate either bearing failure or hub breakage, which are very different fault paths.
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As a retired engineer, I do know that things fail. There is a B10 life on all components. This means that 10% of the components will fail below their expected useful life and that varies by manufacture of said component. You might have gotten some of these components, there is no way to know unless a failure analysis has been done of the failed bearings.

Just follow your maintenance schedule for your given vehicle and check the components when required. I know that my vehicle maintenance schedule calls for the wheel bearings to be inspected every 30K miles.
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