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08-29-2016, 07:30 PM
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Upgrading from TT to 5er
The big question is,...what have I not considered???
I have a 2015 F350 SRW super crew 4wd short bed (6ft 8 inches) that I take in Wednesday morning to get the B&W turnover gooseneck and wiring harness installed. I will be ordering the Anderson Ultimate hitch here shortly, unless you guys talk me into something else. I've chosen a 5er that at max gross wt will keep me under max combined, and max pin (at 25%). What I don't know is how much squat I will get with 3k pin weight. Will airbags be needed to level the truck? Never having owned a fifth wheel, what have I not considered?
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08-29-2016, 07:44 PM
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Squat? Dont worry about it until you actually get the trailer home and loaded for a trip. BTW, gooseneck? Does the trailer mfg know this? Using one could void your trailers frame warrenty. Generally speaking fifth wheel frames are not designed or strengthened sufficiently to support a gooseneck setup. Second, does this fiver have sufficient cut to allow for tight turns without hitting the truck? I think you have way more to worry about than squat.
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08-29-2016, 07:56 PM
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Upgrading from TT to 5er
With the Anderson it will clear, and ,...
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08-29-2016, 08:01 PM
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There were some reports of the Andersen Alloy hitch having some problems with cracking welds/metal.
I have not seen if it has been corrected.
I would get the B&W Companion to go with the turnover.
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08-29-2016, 08:07 PM
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I'll research that.
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08-29-2016, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford Idaho
There were some reports of the Andersen Alloy hitch having some problems with cracking welds/metal.
I have not seen if it has been corrected.
I would get the B&W Companion to go with the turnover.
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08-29-2016, 08:19 PM
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I have a 2016 F350 SW with a trailer that has close to 3K pin weight and the truck sits level.
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08-29-2016, 08:35 PM
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Good to know. Thanks.
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08-29-2016, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Signguy71
I have a 2016 F350 SW with a trailer that has close to 3K pin weight and the truck sits level.
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2016 F350 swd 4x4 with a little over 2800 on the pin and the drop is not noticed.
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08-30-2016, 05:08 AM
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I have 2015 F350 Diesel 3180 pin and the truck sit perfectly level. Mine is about 1/4 inch from the overload springs contacting the stops and I have found if you hit a bump you get rebound off of the overload springs. I installed airbags not get level but to keep the truck from contacting the over load springs. Try it first and see what you get.
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08-30-2016, 10:49 AM
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Thanks for all the great info guys. It is very much appreciated!
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08-30-2016, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donniedu
Squat? Dont worry about it until you actually get the trailer home and loaded for a trip. BTW, gooseneck? Does the trailer mfg know this? Using one could void your trailers frame warrenty. Generally speaking fifth wheel frames are not designed or strengthened sufficiently to support a gooseneck setup. Second, does this fiver have sufficient cut to allow for tight turns without hitting the truck? I think you have way more to worry about than squat.
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The Andersen Ultimate is a great choice. I have been using for two seasons and have no problems. It is not a gooseneck hitch. It is a fifth wheel hitch and attaches at the pin just like all 5th wheel hitches. At 32 pounds it also increases your ability to carry more gear.
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08-30-2016, 06:18 PM
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Another vote for the B&W Companion, I had one in my 2012 F-350 SRW short bed, didn't even opt for the slider and had no issues on clearance with a Palomino 32bhok, I added Timbrem SES bumper stops before I picked up the trailer so don't know what it would have looked like without them, advertised hitch weight is 1872 lbs. empty.
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08-30-2016, 06:48 PM
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More great info, thanks again all.
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08-30-2016, 09:08 PM
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Have an Anderson Ultimate hitch on GMC 2500HD and now on a 3500HD. Some squat on the 2500 but hardly any on the 3500. Nice and quiet towing . Very light hitch to remove and install.
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08-30-2016, 09:45 PM
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Have used the Andersen hitch this year, no issues. I am pulling with a GMC 2500 HD I put Sumo Springs on mine and are very happy with them. No air, no brackets, just install and go. Helps with rebound after hitting a bump or a Kia.
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