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Old 07-29-2016, 02:59 PM   #11
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Just curious why you say you prefered the Torgue and Horsepower of the 5.7L hemi over the cummins? Did you test drive it with the 68RFE or the Aisin? Is your hemi hopped up some how?
I was wondering the same thing. I've driven a '15 5.7 and a '08 6.7. They're not even in the same league.
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:36 PM   #12
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The fourth (2013-2016) gen Ram without the Aisin trans has 360 HP and 800 FT torque, with that being said the wise people that build these beasts save them from us. They don't give you the whole enchilada all at once. less parts breakage that way. I had a 2007 6.7 that felt like it had alot more juice than my 2015 but when I headed over I-70 west in Colorado I could feel the extra power. It might not feel like a race car but it pulls like a freight train.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:27 PM   #13
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Currently pulling a Salem Cruise Lite 261bhxl (~6500 lbs loaded) with a Ram 1500 crew cab 4x4 5.7l Hemi, 3.92 rear diff.

If I were to upgrade the TV to a 2500 diesel, are there must-have features and options I should look for? I'm not familiar enough with the more-capable trucks to know what to look for.

Right now I have my sights set on another crew cab 4x4 with an exhaust brake.

Thanks for any input.

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I run a Ram 2500 Crew Cab 6.4 Hemi gas model with a 4:10 rear end pulling a Flagstaff 5th wheel. we are getting 14.5 miles to a gallon. My friend has the Dodge Ram Diesel and last week he had a oil change an it cost him about $380:00 dollars. Something to due with the filters. It takes 2 for each oil change. Better check maintain cost for the Diesel as to the gas model.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:37 PM   #14
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The 2500 with a diesel is on my wish list too!!!
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Old 07-29-2016, 06:48 PM   #15
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I run a Ram 2500 Crew Cab 6.4 Hemi gas model with a 4:10 rear end pulling a Flagstaff 5th wheel. we are getting 14.5 miles to a gallon. My friend has the Dodge Ram Diesel and last week he had a oil change an it cost him about $380:00 dollars. Something to due with the filters. It takes 2 for each oil change. Better check maintain cost for the Diesel as to the gas model.
I have a 2012 Ram CC Limited SRW Cummins, I do my own oil changes $ 50 for oil and $8.00 for a WIX oil filter and they only take one oil filter. I would have to say your buddy got taken to the cleaners.
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I run a Ram 2500 Crew Cab 6.4 Hemi gas model with a 4:10 rear end pulling a Flagstaff 5th wheel. we are getting 14.5 miles to a gallon. My friend has the Dodge Ram Diesel and last week he had a oil change an it cost him about $380:00 dollars. Something to due with the filters. It takes 2 for each oil change. Better check maintain cost for the Diesel as to the gas model.
My F250 and F350 (both 2016) with 6.7 diesel get oil changes at the Ford dealer. Filters, 13.1 qt oil, tire rotation, all fluids topped, and 25 point inspection for $140.
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I really didn't want to start a debate on which is better. There's no doubt that the Cummins is a first-class work horse and outperforms the hemi towing. For me, though, and this is just my opinion, it lacked that sporty quality that I get in my 1500 truck (unmodified). Looking at the numbers, whereas the diesel wins in torque, my gasser has more raw horsepower and will flat put the back of your head on the headrest when you floor it. I will probably get a 2500/3500 diesel before my next cross-country trip, although I'm asking myself why--my current truck did just fine on a 4750-mile trip to the Southwest this summer. For me, the hemi is more fun to drive. It's like the difference between my Honda 750 and my 1300. The smaller bike wins in sporty fun, but the bigger bike takes the ribbon on longer distance, chugga-chugga rides. I apologize if I opened a can of worms here. I don't really see it as one winning out--I'm a fan of all things Ram. Everybody just has their individual preferences, and mine is currently for my 1500 with my current setup.

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I run a Ram 2500 Crew Cab 6.4 Hemi gas model with a 4:10 rear end pulling a Flagstaff 5th wheel. we are getting 14.5 miles to a gallon. My friend has the Dodge Ram Diesel and last week he had a oil change an it cost him about $380:00 dollars. Something to due with the filters. It takes 2 for each oil change. Better check maintain cost for the Diesel as to the gas model.
Your friend got robbed.

No Cummins has ever used 2 oil filters. Even if you are meaning the dual fuel filters on the 2013+ trucks, the filters are 100 for the pair plus maybe another 100 for the oil change.
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:44 PM   #19
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I too think you should get a 3500 srw. Same configuration it's no more than $500 more. I buy my trucks off Whiteside Dodge in Mt. Sterling Ohio.

He does a lot of business for the farmers around the area and businesses. Gus is his name. Very honest. If you are a AAA member you always get a discount below dealer invoice.

Also if you do call him he won't mess with you if your just using him to squeeze your dealer. He's a cool guy. My family has bought many cars and trucks from him.

He's great to talk w about specs also. Lots of knowledge.
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Just curious why you say you prefered the Torgue and Horsepower of the 5.7L hemi over the cummins? Did you test drive it with the 68RFE or the Aisin? Is your hemi hopped up some how?
I don't know the torque output of the hemi, but guessing a little over 400 lb. ft. Like Shorthorn, I don't understand why someone wouldn't enjoy the performance of the 800 lb. ft. that's standard on new Ram 2500 diesels (900 lb. ft. in 3500s). My biggest complaint about my 2016 is the 3:42 rear end. Someone else said there are a couple options up to 4:10. At least where I live, no options are available in either the 2500 or 3500. Use the Ram website and "build" a truck. You'll find it's 3:42 or nothing. My 2009 Ram with its 3:73 was stronger even though it had just 650 lb. ft. and a little less hp. However, my unloaded mileage is 2-3 mpg better with the new truck. Mpg when towing our 5th wheel (combined gross weight of just under 18,000 lbs.) didn't change much between 2009 and 2016; still around 12.

As others have said, once you've towed with a diesel it's unlikely that you'll want to go back to gas. I never want to tow in mountains again without an exhaust brake.
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