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Old 10-18-2012, 10:24 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by jackhartjr
We've had a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic with the Duramax diesel since new. Over 176,000 miles and have replaced an axle seal, the front bearing assembles and the batteries. Not bad! Oh yeah, got 81,000 out of the first set of tires and 95,000 out of the last set.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:35 PM   #32
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Look at the weight ratings for your particular "as optioned" truck and that dictates what weight trailer you can legally tow.

The other way to do it is choose your trailer and then buy a truck that is rated to tow it.

Since you're looking at a 2002, I'll guess you're like me and.......ahem.......slightly cash flow limited.

A 2002 properly equipped 8.1 will be able to tow a fairly large trailer. A quick google shows a 10,800 lb tow rating for a 2002 2500 GMC, but that all depends on things like axle ratio, tow package, etc.

The max weight I could find for a 2002 2wd 2500 gmc was that 10,800 (2002 GMC Sierra 2500). That is a good 1,000 lbs under your expected dry trailer weight of 11,800...then throw your stuff in there and you can add at least 500-1000 lbs more.

Check the option codes on your 2002 very closely when you look at it. The 10,800 was the max rating. If the truck you're looking has different options (IE: gearing, tow package, etc) then it's going to be rated less than 10,800. That 10,800 also might be with the Duramax, a gas truck may be less.

Like I said, check the option codes on the particular truck you're looking at....

Also, don't expect mileage anything like the tundra gets. Get ready to pay at the pumps for all that displacement.

With a ten year old truck and expecting to tow heavy with it (no such thing as a "light" 5th wheel), make sure you look it over good. Ie: inspection, pay a mechanic, service records, oil change records, etc.....

Not so much cash flow limited as we are by my husband's wanting a gas engine, specifically the 8.1 which has proved difficult to find as GM stopped putting them in their trucks in 2006. Ideally, we would prefer to have it in a dually but that has proved even more difficult given that he also wants one with low mileage. I would definitely feel more comfortable with a diesel but the absolutely refuses. We have pulled the option codes for this particular truck and know in fact that it has the 4:10 axle ratio.

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Old 10-19-2012, 06:44 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by Dave_Monica View Post
If I recall from my Ram manual, 89 octane is the recommended fuel for the Hemi. I could notice the difference when towing with it between 91 and 87 octane.

My V10 specs 87 octane...I've tried 89 and 91 but haven't noticed any difference at all.

Back to the OP. Our F250 V10 is rated for 14500 lbs but I don't think I'd attempt towing that. If the camper's 12000 lbs dry it'd be about 13500 lbs loaded which using a pin weight of 20% would be about 2700 lbs. That will put the truck well over it's GVWR but will probably be under the RAWR. You have to decide if that's okay.

The main reason for bumping octane is detonation resistance you may get some power as a side effect of the ECU not pulling timing.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:56 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by jtstromsburg View Post
I love all the diesels as much as the next guy, but this is crazy. My 05 f250 v10 is rated to 15000 towing a 5th. Pin weight is always the limiting factor in any 3/4 ton, diesel or not. yes I only get 7mpg, but in my instance, I saved $10K over getting a similar truck with a diesel. That'll by an awful lot of gas!
I love my diesel and agree completely. If you are an infrequent tower and use the truck mostly for commuting or hauling, diesel's better gas mileage will take a LONG time to break even based on the cost of gas vs diesel. I once did a complete cost vs towing mpg breakdown here (long post BTW) and you would have to tow a lot more than most to be ahead JUST USING FUEL as your only reason.

We who tow with diesels do it because we like the low end torque; ability to pull quickly; rapid acceleration from stop while loaded and oh, yea less fuel stops per leg.

Trying to jam a 40 foot combination into high speed traffic from a short merge ramp is easy as pie with a diesel and much more white knuckle in a gas truck.

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Old 10-19-2012, 06:59 AM   #35
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All the manufactures play the numbers game. And under ideal conditions, the truck will do what the numbers say. However, if you are towing at 3/4 to full rating of truck all the time, poor truck is going to break down early. Tow at 1/2 to 3/4 of it's max capacity and it will last A LOT longer.

That chevy 8.1 is a bored out 454 big block to 502 inches. It's been the gasser workhorse for many years and is a great engine. But when towing heavy loads, you need bigger suspension, brakes, frame rails, etc. Stopping, swerving to avoid hitting something, and going around curves is were the bigger trucks handle the load.

Hell, a Tundra can tow a space shuttle.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:03 AM   #36
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Hell, a Tundra can tow a space shuttle.
What a great commercial that would make!
I would pay money to see that.

I just hope yours is not one of the years with the recalled frame.

They did expand the years covered.

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Old 10-19-2012, 07:52 AM   #37
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So, just out of curiosity, what is your husband's resistance to diesel? I don't think that's been mentioned!
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:08 AM   #38
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Once you've had 800+ ft-lbs torque, it's really hard to go back.

If you want to stick with gas, the GM HD trucks had significant improvements starting in 2011. So to get the high payload and towing capacity on the GM trucks, you'll need to go newer.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:11 AM   #39
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Once you've had 800+ ft-lbs torque, it's really hard to go back.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:18 AM   #40
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Play the video of the Super Duty hauling a 10,000 lb trailer. Pretty impressive for a 6.2l gas motor with a $429.00 tuner. I am not nervous trying to merge with the new SD or even in the past with our hemi. And as to the diesel having a higher resale value, it better have given you paid 10k more for it.



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