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Old 03-23-2013, 04:00 PM   #1
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Ok I might need a little help on this one. I have the Reese dual cam setup on my lacrosse 318 BHS. Had it all set on my Dodge 1500 and was great. Got a 2500 diesel over the winter, and today I spent a better portion of the day setting the hitch for the new truck. Now due to the high of the new truck I had to buy a new hitch bar with a lower drop. Anyways. Did all the measurements according to the Reese instructions, same that I did on my 1500. The camper is level right on, my rear end squats a little less than one inch, and my front end squats 1/4 of an inch, compared to unloaded. As at as pulling I can hardly tell its back there, but the ride seems sloppy. Seems like an am swaying a bit. My steering was real sluggish, but that was fixed when I got the new hitch bar, and dropped the ball another 1" and re adjusted everything.

Now I may be paranoid, because today is a very windy day here in central NY. Also, I have not adjusted the tire pressure on the camper, nor did I beef up the pressure on my truck ( my truck has 2 settings, light load and heavy load). I intend to do all of this before I leave for Florida on Thursday. So I guess I am wondering am I just feeling the effects of the wind and tire pressure, or is there something else I am missing and should be checking?

Fire away and thanks in advance.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:17 PM   #2
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So, your front end is down when loaded vs unloaded? That doesn't seem right to me. Generally, your front end is up a bit while the rear end is down a bit. You should check your Dodge manual for their recommendations. On my Ford, it says to adjust the WD bars so that the front end is halfway between unloaded height and loaded height without any WD bars. (So, you are bringing it halfway back.) Maybe you are putting too much pressure on the bars? That could make it feel squirrely.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:23 PM   #3
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Yes too much on the bars gives a real weird feel, only need enough to make both vehicles level
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:24 PM   #4
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^^ I agree^^ with both!
I pulled a popup with a Ranger and when the bars were too tight it handled very poorly.
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:22 PM   #5
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I agree with all of you


When I drop to less on the bars it does let the front up, and the front end is all over. I have talked to to RV dealers and called Reese and followed heir instructions. They all agree that the truck ahold settle an inch or less when The trailer is hooked up and ready to to. The front end has to settle a little bit, so you know there is weight getting transferred to the front axle. From the ground to the wheel well up with out the trailer hooked up the height is 39 3/4 ". Hooked up it is 39 1/4 inch. Reese actually recommends it be a 1/2 squat in from so that's right on. In the rear I get almost an inch of squat, Aquino, exactly what reese recommends. When I engage the bars , every thing is nice and level.

This is exactly ow everything sat on my 1/2 ton and it was great.

When I was at the dealer today he said the front end should never be higher loaded then when unloaded. I didn't believe him so I tried it, and man my steering was soooo sloppy....

Once I did it this way all the sloppiness went away, but.im I still til I m feeling something just not sure
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:26 PM   #6
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Did you air up to max pressures yet?
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No I didn't. Gonna do all that tomorrow. That is the only thing not right now and I'm hoping that's it.

The hitch according to manufactures documentation is right on

It was also extremely windy here today
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The cams need to be centered exactly in the crooks of the spring bars when going straight. I would double check those.
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They were centered exactly where they need to be..


I'm hoping it was just the windy conditions today and the light tire PSI in my rear tires. When set on light load, they are approx 20 PSI less then when I set them for heavy loads.
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So, your front end is down when loaded vs unloaded? That doesn't seem right to me. Generally, your front end is up a bit while the rear end is down a bit. You should check your Dodge manual for their recommendations. On my Ford, it says to adjust the WD bars so that the front end is halfway between unloaded height and loaded height without any WD bars. (So, you are bringing it halfway back.) Maybe you are putting too much pressure on the bars? That could make it feel squirrely.
That may be what Ford recommends. But I have used 2 different WDH systems in my time, and the instructions on kits themselves call for either bringing the front fenders back to original unloaded height, or at the most have the front and rear fenders at equal compression.

Remember, getting the truck level is only a byproduct of using a WDH. The main goal is to move weight back onto the front wheels, for proper traction, steering, etc. If after engaging the WDH kit, your front wheel wells are higher than before you attached the trailer, you are not transferring enough weight. If you have to perform an emergency lane change on a wet road, you just might find yourself understeering right into an avoidable rear-end collision.

Kozzy,
1. Check tire pressure on all 8 tires. If that solves the problem, leave things like they are. 1/4" front compression and ~3/4" rear compression is fine.
2. If tire pressure doesn't solve the problem, transfer some more weight, shooting for around 1/2" compression front and rear. This could require other changes (as you know) to get the trailer back to level. If you are worried about your front axle weight, get to a CAT scale.

For a 1500 series truck, there isn't a whole lot of front axle capacity, so you couldn't go much beyond stock front height, for fear of overloading the front axle. I used to tow a popup with a FWD minivan and a 400 lbs capacity single-bar WDH. No way could I push weight beyond stock ride height.

But for a 2500 series truck, you have plenty of front capacity. The Reese instructions should have guidelines for how far is too far.
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