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Old 04-11-2016, 09:24 PM   #11
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How would you do the weighing if you were using a scale at a gravel pit? Would you pull onto the scales one axle at a time with the WDH, then do it again without the WDH, then the third time with TV only? I have ready access to scales locally, but CAT scales are a distance.
There is a CAT scale at the Flying J on I-70 at Exit 49.
https://catscale.com/cat-scale-locator/?single=769

You can do it at a gravel pit but I'm not sure you'd be able to have just one axle at a time on the scale. It would be much easier to just take the trailer to the CAT scale.
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:41 PM   #12
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Yup, your tongue weight is calculated by subtracting your (TV only) weight from your (TV and TT loaded with WDH unhitched) (front and rear axle obviously). You can then add this number to the TT axle weight to get your total trailer weight including tongue.

(TV and TT WDH unhitched (F+R axle only)) - (TV only) = Tongue Weight

(Tongue Weight) + (Trailer Axle WDH unhitched) = Total Trailer Weight

(TV and TT w/WDH) is used to play with WDH setting by comparing TV front and rear axle weights.

I have run my setup over the CAT scale 6 times in one visit once. The people at the desk were very friendly and they were not too busy. I pull into an empty diesel refueling spot next to the scale to adjust the hitch as its reasonably level there. Call them and ask what times they are slowest and go then. IIRC first weigh is $15, then reweights are $2 a shot.
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This link shows various configurations of TT and FW and how to position your wheels on a CAT scale. I complete the weigh process in one pass on the scale. Hope it will answer the question on how to weigh. If the pin weight is needed, a second pass with the truck only after weighing the complete unit will show the trucks weight on scale 1 & 2. Compare with the weight from the first weighing for scale 1 & 2.

https://catscale.com/how-to-weigh/
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:13 AM   #14
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If anyone is ever in the Canton, OH area you can PM me and I can get you hooked up with a multi platform scale (CAT scale). I work for a scale manufacturer and we have one of our scales out front as a public scale.
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:15 AM   #15
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There is a CAT scale at the Flying J on I-70 at Exit 49.
https://catscale.com/cat-scale-locator/?single=769

You can do it at a gravel pit but I'm not sure you'd be able to have just one axle at a time on the scale. It would be much easier to just take the trailer to the CAT scale.
Itat - Thanks for the tip on the Cat Scales. That location is well over an hour away. I've got an aggregate supplier about 10 min from the house. I did see a description how to do this with gravel pit scales once, but can't locate it thru the search engine. Will have to keep looking. Thanks for the input.
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How would you do the weighing if you were using a scale at a gravel pit? Would you pull onto the scales one axle at a time with the WDH, then do it again without the WDH, then the third time with TV only? I have ready access to scales locally, but CAT scales are a distance.


The issue with gravel scales, as I understand it, is their size. You can do individual axles and keep getting weights (first do truck front, then truck front+rear, then truck front+rear+trailer). Then you'd have to subtract the value from the previous one to find out the change. BUT- with the size of the scales, the accuracy is suspect with just being on the edge and them being so large.

If you try it, basically you need to collect all of the same weights and then you can math things out.

I should add a new tool on towingplanner.com for this; but the concern still is accuracy of the scale with the size + using the edges.
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The issue with gravel scales, as I understand it, is their size. You can do individual axles and keep getting weights (first do truck front, then truck front+rear, then truck front+rear+trailer). Then you'd have to subtract the value from the previous one to find out the change. BUT- with the size of the scales, the accuracy is suspect with just being on the edge and them being so large.

If you try it, basically you need to collect all of the same weights and then you can math things out.

I should add a new tool on towingplanner.com for this; but the concern still is accuracy of the scale with the size + using the edges.
Thanks for the feedback ependydad, I may try it because I have free access to the scales, but eventually I'll get it done on the CAT Sacles. Your links are excellent. Keep up the good work.
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How would you do the weighing if you were using a scale at a gravel pit? Would you pull onto the scales one axle at a time with the WDH, then do it again without the WDH, then the third time with TV only? I have ready access to scales locally, but CAT scales are a distance.

ependydad is on the money, but I posted a more detailed explanation a couple of years ago if you want to take a look:
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I used the quarry scales a bunch of times before starting to use some local CAT scales. Our scales had a digital readout I could see from the truck seat, so I didn't have to even bother the scale operator except to get permission before wieghing.
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Using a single platform scale can work as ependydad and MtnGuy have said but you'll need 9 measurements instead of 3 and have a little more math to do. It may not be as accurate since your weights are not all properly centered on the platform but it's probably "good enough" for your purpose.

I have a CAT scale within 25 minutes of my house. Unfortunately, the one 2 minutes away closed last Fall. Check the CAT Scale Locator page to see if there is anything closer to you.
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