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Old 04-09-2016, 09:18 PM   #11
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Hoping the Original Poster doesn't mind. Same truck and thought it was relevant. Wondering if those interested would look at mine as well. Trying to get it set up better this year (last year in this truck most likely). I can see rear axle is an issue. I also have been questioning the WDH they set me up with. I think it should have been a 12K minimum and they went 10K. I wonder if I have any recourse with the dealer, almost a year later.

Pics in order: Truck Payload; Truck Axles; Truck Only; Trailer with OUT WDH; Trailer WITH WDH

And I also provided a link to the calculator for tongue weight as well.
Actual Weights - Travel Trailer/Bumper Pull Weights from CAT Scales - Towing Planner








Thanks for taking a look.
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:47 AM   #12
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3 washers

also noticed that the dealer only installed three washers. This could DEF. be causing the issues of tongue weight and rear axle issues. I may have to redo the entire hitch again to get it right. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:14 PM   #13
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Weight check

Hazmat you are 280 lbs over your rear gawr spec 3800 lbs vs measured in last pick 4080lbs. And you are 80lbs over your gvwr.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:34 PM   #14
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After looking at the number and being pretty upset I looked at the hitch setup and I believe it is all wrong. Practically, if I can get more weight back on that trailer the margins aren't too far off where it would be an issue right?
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:20 PM   #15
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ElizabethN (OP), your TT is about the same weight as ours (6,500 empty / 640 empty tongue) & we also have the EQ4 1200. The dealer setup the WDH for what he expected our tongue weight would be when loaded. Therefore on the way home from the dealership it felt bouncy - like it was porpoising up & down too much for my liking - and this was behind our Ram 2500 CC w/stiff rear springs that can handle a payload capacity of 3,000 vs. your Ecoboost's 1,760...

However, once we loaded our gear we're at 8,000+ w/loaded tongue of 1,200 and the ride feels totally stable now. (Tongue weight increased by 50%; now 15% of our TT weight...) Once we had some pretty high winds so I added about 300 lbs. of water to our FW tank (up front) making our tongue weight closer to 17% and stabilizing our setup even further by lowering the TT's center-of-gravity. However, I do not recommend towing with a full FW tank on a regular basis...

The problem with the F150 EB is the softer rear-end / payload limitation of 1,760 means you have to dial-in the WDH just right to keep 15% on the tongue & not go over on your rear axle rating. Therefore a lot of F150 EB folks tend to add airbags to stiffen the rear axle. Since you have already upgraded to E tires, your next step is to adjust the EQ4 WDH by following the manual/YouTube videos step-by-step. If that does not work, your last option is to add some affordable air bags. It seems most folks are happy with the results.
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:22 PM   #16
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Weight check

You should try to get 300 lbs back to the front axle this my get you under on your rear gawr. You then need to look at you tongue weight and see if you can get under you gvwr by reducing it. Just try to stay around 12%. No matter what you do you will be right at the maximums for your TV. So you need to take this into account for how you drive and doing the maintenance on the TV. You will get people on here that will say you are over weight because you don't have any margin but it depends how comfortable you are running right at your maximum weight.
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You should try to get 300 lbs back to the front axle this my get you under on your rear gawr. You then need to look at you tongue weight and see if you can get under you gvwr by reducing it. Just try to stay around 12%. No matter what you do you will be right at the maximums for your TV. So you need to take this into account for how you drive and doing the maintenance on the TV. You wail get people on here that will say you are over weight because you don't have any margin but it depends how comfortable you are running right at your maximum weight.


No doubt; when the lease is over I'm going 3/4 a 1 ton (which will inevitably lead to a 5th wheel ) but, for the next 1.5 years I'd like to bring the weights in line and be safe.
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Old 04-10-2016, 02:07 PM   #18
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You need 2 or 3 more washers. You will see a bit more weight transferred back to the trailer axles as well moving more weight to the front axle.


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