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Old 06-10-2013, 10:19 AM   #1
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Weight question

Hey folks, I have a couple of questions, probably asked before but I couldn't find the answer. So here we go:
1. The gcwr( gross combined weight) does it incl the tongue weight too or just the trailer+ truck?
2. The sticker on my TH says 5206 lbs. dry weight, does this incl the tongue weight or just the trailer?

I am crunching numbers to not go over my gcwr, so everything is helpful.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:25 AM   #2
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As I understand it, it is total weight of the truck and the trailer, as weighed on the truck scales.

The dry weight of your trailer is the total weight of the trailer empty,(tongue weight included) and I think that is without propane and battery.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:50 AM   #3
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Thanks, that's what I thought. But still leaves me the question of the tongue weight incl in the gcwr. Only way to figure it out is probably driving on a scale....
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Thanks, that's what I thought. But still leaves me the question of the tongue weight incl in the gcwr. Only way to figure it out is probably driving on a scale....
That is the only way.

And fully loaded ready for camping.
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Dry weight is a number you should never ever go by as its as the camper comes of the assembly line and will never ever be that number again.
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Thanks, that's what I thought. But still leaves me the question of the tongue weight incl in the gcwr. Only way to figure it out is probably driving on a scale....
You'll violate all kinds of other limits long before you ever get to GCWR so don't even worry about that one. But yes, GCWR includes tongue weight.
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Thanks, that's what I thought. But still leaves me the question of the tongue weight incl in the gcwr. Only way to figure it out is probably driving on a scale....
GCWR is the total weight of the tow vehicle and the camper. Hitch weight is already factored in the weight of the entire rig (TV/camper).
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You'll violate all kinds of other limits long before you ever get to GCWR so don't even worry about that one. But yes, GCWR includes tongue weight.
Cargo carrying capacity comes to mind.
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The GCWR is the is the rating for the total wt of the truck, trailer and all your stuff. This includes the pin wt. Drive on the scales all hooked up and fully loaded,weigh the TV front axle, then the back, pull fwd and weigh all trailer axles. Take the total and it should be under the GCWR. If over its time for a bigger TV or just live with it.
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Thanks! Scale here I come!
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Is it a travel trailer or fifth wheel?

If it's a TT- you need to get 3 weights:
- Truck + Trailer with WDH bars in place
- Truck + Trailer without WDH bars (bars in the truck bed)
- Truck only (bars with the trailer)

If it's a FW- you only need 2 weights:
- Truck + Trailer
- Truck only

For all weightings, you want to get weights for each individual axle (truck's front axle, truck's rear axle and then all camper axles can be combined).
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