Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-05-2016, 05:38 PM   #21
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 139
Has your husband worked on many modern diesel engines in pickups?

The modern diesel trucks do not smell like the older versions, yes when fueling diesel has its smell just lime gasoline does.

Second no truck pulling up a 6% grade feels like the trailer is not back there. Yes it will do it with less effort and more efficient, but not to the point of being on flat ground.

clutchd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 05:43 PM   #22
Senior Member
Justice12t's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Western, NY
Posts: 213
Originally Posted by RSchleder View Post
If you aren't among the --you need a 3/4 or 1 ton truck for a Scamp, and want to stick with a nice comfortable truck to drive when NOT towing, I have the truck for you.
The Ram half ton with HEMI, 392 geared rear end, along with 4 corner factory air suspension with automatic leveling is the truck for you!
Well if we are going in this direction than here we go...

The GMC Sierra 1500 with the 420HP/460lb-ft torque 6.2L, 8 speed tranny is the truck for you! Max trailer package and 3.42 rear gives you just under 12k towing and about 2100lb payload. Unloaded I can average 18-20 mpg plus. Well appointed SLT interior gives you great comfort both when towing and not. This truck will make you feel as secure while towing as possible...(in the 1/2 ton league that is)...

Love the truck...glad to see the big 3 seem to be stepping it up...OP good luck in whatever you decide to safe and

2016 Prime Time Crusader 294RLT

2016 Days Booked - 31!
Justice12t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 06:00 PM   #23
Senior Member
RSchleder's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,091
It appears the "poster" has more than 1half ton choice! Outstanding, I was not aware GM had such a husky half ton. I'm sure it's a great truck!!!
Days camping (2015)----88 days
Days camping (2016) ---110 days
2016 Wildcat MAXX 28RKX (33' TT), 2007 13' Scamp
2015 Ram Laramie Hemi
30 years RV'ing
12 different RV's
RSchleder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 06:17 PM   #24
Senior Member
The_Rhino's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 513
Originally Posted by RSchleder View Post
...I have the truck for you. The Ram half ton with HEMI... It maintains the MPH within 5 mph on the 6% grades, does not heat up and stays at the speed I dictate going down the "other side". Mileage is not great. in the area of 7-10 mph when towing. Of course, it's much better when not towing and gets around 17-19 mpg.
The Ram 1500 has about the lowest payload in its class, so for about the same money I recommend getting a Ram 2500 gas - ours has a payload of 3,000. Newer 2500s come with HD rear coil springs and a 6.4 Hemi option. If you upgrade to a diesel, you have to move-up to a 1 ton because the heavier diesel takes-away too much payload... So IMO, for TT's in the 8,000 range, a gas 3/4 ton offers the best bang/buck... In fact, we bought a 2 year-old Ram 2500 CC w/balance of powertrain warranty for only $14K...

Our 2011 Ram 2500 CC w/5.7 Hemi had no problems towing our 8,000 lb. TT (15,000 GCVW) throughout the Smoky Mts. last summer. 95% of the time the tranny dropped just 1 gear & I always had peddle left. A couple times it dropped 2 gears but I maintained 60 mph with peddle left - I just didn't want to burn more gas than I had to... It was in the 80's outside & my engine & tranny temps didn't rise enough to be noticeable.

For a number of years I worked for several employers who managed fleets of 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton trucks. The diesels were ALWAYS more expensive to maintain mainly because diesel mechanics & parts ain't cheap. Newer diesels have lots of extra emissions junk added, so even more stuff to go wrong...

Of course there are folks on this forum who can afford to buy a $50K truck every 5 years before the warranty expires, so they never see a repair bill... However, our $14k gasser takes our 15,000 GCVW to all of the same places & if the kids ding it unloading their bikes & don't have a meltdown...
2011 RAM 2500 ST Crew Cab 5.7 Hemi
2011 Primetime 3150BHD Touring Edition
Days camped in 2016-36
Days camped in 2015-37; Days camped in 2014-31

The_Rhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 06:20 PM   #25
Senior Member
f5moab's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,797
Originally Posted by Justice12t View Post
Also consider that your 05 runs in the range of 285HP and 335lb-ft torque...

Compared to the newer GM 5.3L V8...355HP and 383lb-ft of torque...

So even just upgrading to a newer 1/2 ton would help. A 3/4 ton plus would be bonus...just my penny...
I agree. Granted my trailer is only 3K loaded, but out here 6/7 grades are everywhere and I have had no problems with the 3.42 gearing. In fact, think there were some 8% grades from Jackson down to Vernal and then down to Price UT.

Trans temps go up to around 205, but in this day-and-age, no problem.

And if you need more, get the 6.2L. It's a lot cheaper than a diesel.
Trailer: Lifted 228BH, heavy duty springs and Yokohama tires
TV: 2016 GMC Sierra Z71 4x4 CC, SLT
Spare TV: Two Alaskan Malamutes

Living somewhere in ID; previously lived in Moab UT; previous to that, don't ask!
f5moab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 06:20 PM   #26
Senior Member
Justice12t's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Western, NY
Posts: 213
You make a very good point.
2016 Prime Time Crusader 294RLT

2016 Days Booked - 31!
Justice12t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 06:20 PM   #27
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 20
One thing to keep in mind is that there is a huge difference between a 6% grade at 1000ft and one at 7000ft!
RCW is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 06:32 PM   #28
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Greater Houston Area
Posts: 121
Its not all about horsepower or torque, although the diesels have an advantage in that department. Its also about truck size. Bigger brakes, bigger coolers for the engine and transmission, better transmissions, and added features like exhaust brakes. But, most of all, just sheer weight. Its the weight of the truck that really makes for a ride where the trailer is not all over the place in the wind or when passing a semi.

You can gussy up a 1/2 ton all day long but at the end of the day, a larger\heavier truck is just going to handle a load much better.
2016 Jayco Eagle 330RSTS = "Madame Maxime"
Maxxis M8008 E rated Tires and 16" Wheel Upgrade
Dual A/C, 14K Equalizer WD hitch with SC
King Bed with Java Interior, (2X) Yamaha EF2000isV2
2012 Ram 4500, 6.7L Cummins TD, MegaCab = "Hagrid"
360 degree Virtual Tour
Fairenatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 06:36 PM   #29
Senior Member
Jim34RL's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Oswego il
Posts: 791
I have own two different trucks pulling a 5er. One was a 2001 gas 6.0L Chevy 2500HD pulling a 2006 M-270 RKS Ameri-Camp. That weighed close to 7,400 LBS and the truck could hardly pull that on flat ground. The RPM's were close to 3,500 just to get the 5er to start to move on flat ground. I told my DW that we either sell the trailer or the pick-up truck and buy a diesel after only two times pulling the 5er.

We ended up buying a 2008, 2500 Ram MEGA CAB, 6.7L Cummins, 6 speed auto with 3:73 gears. I am now towing a 2016, 34RL Cedar Creek with this truck. We traveled out west this year taking I70 through the Rockies and on into Utah. I went through the Eisenhower Tunnel doing the speed limit and traveling in 5th gear. My EGT'S were under 850F, transmission was under 180F and Boost pressure was around 25 to 30 PSI, and towing mileage was an average of 12.16 MPG. Truck ran flawless with the integral exhaust brake retarding the truck as needed. I will never own a gas engine vehicle again for any reason. Even my DW drives a 2011 VW Jetta TDI.
Jim W.
2016 34RL CC; 2008 Ram Mega Cab 2500HD, 6.7L, 68RFE 6 speed, 4X4, Smarty S67
Jim34RL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2016, 06:45 PM   #30
Senior Member
Butch Wilson's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Liberty, NC
Posts: 214
Oh yeah ! He needs a new truck ! Don't get hung up on the technical part, he needs a new truck !

Butch Wilson is offline   Reply With Quote


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

Copyright 2002-2015 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:11 AM.