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04-17-2016, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by leefl
Wow, guess I'll have to fill the tank before driving any of the longer climbs on our summer trip!
And be prepared for a slow climb
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Yeah you're definitely not going to set any land speed records. I even had to slow down all the way to 25 because of traffic at the bottom of a hill before ascending another. Lost all momentum. That was a bit unnerving at first but the truck dropped into 2nd and the 6.2 actually gained speed going up. Was damn near 6000 rpms hauling up that one! I learned real quick to never pass up gas in the mountains, even if you're at a half tank. ;-)
I cant wait to see how our rigs do at the elevations we're both going to hit hauling Ikes Gauntlet. We may be pushing 5500-6000 rpms the whole time going up.
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04-17-2016, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tragusa3
Yep. My little 6cyl gasser is towing 7500lbs and holds the speed limit on extended 6% grades while not going over 2500rpm.
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Yeah, same here. Pulling right around 7,500 lbs and rarely goes over 2,500 rpm, 3,000 on the taller climbs in the Rockies. I guess those little turbos make a difference.
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04-17-2016, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark S
Yeah, same here. Pulling right around 7,500 lbs and rarely goes over 2,500 rpm, 3,000 on the taller climbs in the Rockies. I guess those little turbos make a difference.
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Turbos make a massive difference in the high altitudes.
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04-17-2016, 08:44 AM
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Just drove two 6% grades with about 7,000 pounds behind me. 3,800-4,000 RPM gave steady 55-60 mph in fifth (of eight) gear.
'14 Ram 1500, 5.7 hemi and 3.92.
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04-17-2016, 09:03 AM
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In the 70s & '80s I pulled a 6500# TT with a Plymouth Fury. 360 cu in and a 3 speed 727 trans. It did a better job than some SUVs and trucks today.
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04-17-2016, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DocGTO
I looked at one the other day. Sticker was almost $60K.....
I just got my new 16 GMC 3500 Denali fir $58,5K. WAY more truck.
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Im sure your Denali is a nice truck but it cant be 22K nicer than my 2015 RAM. IMHO
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04-17-2016, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by W5CI
Im sure your Denali is a nice truck but it cant be 22K nicer than my 2015 RAM. IMHO
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You can compare the top of the GMC with the bottom of line stripped RAM. When I was looking for my F350 at 61,000 MSRP I also looked at a couple of top of the line RAMs at 79,000 MSRP and I couldn't justify the over price RAM.
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04-17-2016, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jheacox1
Yeah you're definitely not going to set any land speed records. I even had to slow down all the way to 25 because of traffic at the bottom of a hill before ascending another. Lost all momentum. That was a bit unnerving at first but the truck dropped into 2nd and the 6.2 actually gained speed going up. Was damn near 6000 rpms hauling up that one! I learned real quick to never pass up gas in the mountains, even if you're at a half tank. ;-)
I cant wait to see how our rigs do at the elevations we're both going to hit hauling Ikes Gauntlet. We may be pushing 5500-6000 rpms the whole time going up.
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pushing 5500 to 6000 rpms in your ford 6.2 crazy . my nice little 2003 chevy 6.0 4 speed pulls me up ike/johnson at 45 mph at 4300rpm thats from sliverthorn headed east much easier going west bound longer grade but not as steep . but i only haul my 9000lbs 29xlr
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04-17-2016, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by W5CI
Im sure your Denali is a nice truck but it cant be 22K nicer than my 2015 RAM. IMHO
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So you got a 2015 dodge ram 3500 drw crewcab 4wd diesel for $36,500?
Was it wrecked or have a blown engine or tranny or high miles?
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04-17-2016, 10:29 AM
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My 01 2500hd silverado 6.0 low geared slows up hills. It weights 5600, trailer 6000.
My 14 grand cherokee srt 6.4 doesnt slow and will accelerate hard up hill at any speed.
The jeep weights 5150 and considerably less distance from hitch to rear axle on the jeep.
We tow with the 2500 and just go slow. The truck can hold the hills with rpm but I am not high reving(rpms) the truck as it won't last like that.
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04-17-2016, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MillerTime
So you got a 2015 dodge ram 3500 drw crewcab 4wd diesel for $36,500?
Was it wrecked or have a blown engine or tranny or high miles?
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A three year old F350 Lariat Diesel NADA retail is 46,350 and trade in average condition is 40,450 and rough condition trade in at 38,625. Nice to know that RAM would have to write me a check to drive off a brand new RAM, that would be a different experience - them writing me a check instead of me writing them one. Since I trade every 36 months I will keep that in mind when I start shopping for my new truck.
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04-17-2016, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CWSWine
A three year old F350 Lariat Diesel NADA retail is 46,350 and trade in average condition is 40,450 and rough condition trade in at 38,625. Nice to know that RAM would have to write me a check to drive off a brand new RAM, that would be a different experience - them writing me a check instead of me writing them one. Since I trade every 36 months I will keep that in mind when I start shopping for my new truck.
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Lol!!
I just ran nada on used 1 ton, diesel, dual wheel, 4wd 2015s (i used all the same options and 5200 miles on all) and ford platinum, king ranch, chevy high country, gmc denali and gmc slt, and they all were worth about $5-8k more than a similarly equipped (again all the same options and mileage) ram longhorn.
Interesting, I'd never ran the numbers before on all of them, just had seen in the past that ram didn't hold its price as well as the others, but if initial price is so low, i guess it wont. But i know some people probably pay just as much or more for them. I'd say run the used numbers on them and compare to your purchase prices of all of them and see what your value difference would be.
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04-17-2016, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplewon
My 01 2500hd silverado 6.0 low geared slows up hills. It weights 5600, trailer 6000.
My 14 grand cherokee srt 6.4 doesnt slow and will accelerate hard up hill at any speed.
The jeep weights 5150 and considerably less distance from hitch to rear axle on the jeep.
We tow with the 2500 and just go slow. The truck can hold the hills with rpm but I am not high reving(rpms) the truck as it won't last like that.
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my 03 6.0 doesn't slow up hills when not towing a 9000 lbs trailer and 4300 rpms is not high revving when i am towing . it's not like your running like that all day just 20 mins up a pass . Chevy built to last and handle the load
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04-17-2016, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MillerTime
Lol!!
. I'd say run the used numbers on them and compare to your purchase prices of all of them and see what your value difference would be.
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I agree, being able to trade a 3 year old F350 diesel SRW for brand new Ram 3500 Diesel DRW would be attractive traded and the dealer would have to write you a check would put it over the top. I was wanting a 2017 F350 Ford but I guess I will have to put the Ram back on this list.
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04-17-2016, 12:01 PM
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#155
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Originally Posted by CWSWine
I agree, being able to trade a 3 year old F350 diesel SRW for brand new Ram 3500 Diesel DRW would be attractive traded and the dealer would have to write you a check would put it over the top. I was wanting a 2017 F350 Ford but I guess I will have to put the Ram back on this list.
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Lol!
I love it!!
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04-17-2016, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CWSWine
I agree, being able to trade a 3 year old F350 diesel SRW for brand new Ram 3500 Diesel DRW would be attractive traded and the dealer would have to write you a check would put it over the top. I was wanting a 2017 F350 Ford but I guess I will have to put the Ram back on this list.
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Thats one reason why i bought my Gmc Denali duramax new. I could find 2-3 year duramax denali's or chevy ltz's with 50k or so miles and they were only about $5-8k less than i bought mine new. I figued the extra miles and years were worth it and my roi should be really good if i sell mine in 3 years or so.
Plus its considered a business expense (like yours probably is too) so depreciation helps with it all too!
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04-17-2016, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by northstar1960
pushing 5500 to 6000 rpms in your ford 6.2 crazy . my nice little 2003 chevy 6.0 4 speed pulls me up ike/johnson at 45 mph at 4300rpm thats from sliverthorn headed east much easier going west bound longer grade but not as steep . but i only haul my 9000lbs 29xlr
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Ok maybe not 6000 since that's red line but I could see it before it shifts up. Max HP of 385 is at 5500 and Max Torque of 405 is at 4500. So I'm probably looking at 4500-5500 cruising up that grade at 45-50. And that speed is just fine with me.
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04-17-2016, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime
Thats one reason why i bought my Gmc Denali duramax new. I could find 2-3 year duramax denali's or chevy ltz's with 50k or so miles and they were only about $5-8k less than i bought mine new. I figued the extra miles and years were worth it and my roi should be really good if i sell mine in 3 years or so.
Plus its considered a business expense (like yours probably is too) so depreciation helps with it all too!
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It just a numbers game. Like the Diesel engine option. - my diesel option MSRP was 8480.00 and after discounts I got on the truck I paid about 7200.00 for the diesel option. Three year old truck the diesel option adds 8250.00 over the price of gas engine according to NADA.
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04-17-2016, 01:46 PM
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#159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W5CI
Im sure your Denali is a nice truck but it cant be 22K nicer than my 2015 RAM. IMHO
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The comparible Laramie limited was 71,500-75k. My truck listed for 66,550. I think I got the better deal.
I could have gotten a work truck for a lot cheaper but this is my daily and we use it to travel in so I like all the goodies.
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04-17-2016, 03:51 PM
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