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Old 09-21-2016, 12:37 PM   #21
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I'll "weigh" in here.....I towed roughly same weight dimensions with a 3500 SRW for over 20k miles, no issues. We started looking at a new toy hauler that was quite a bit heavier so I bought a dually to prepare for a new hauler. We have yet to buy the new hauler, however towing the same toy hauler with a SRW and then a DRW is night and day ! DRW is so much better IMO. My dually is my DD and havent yet had an issue, even with oversize tires that stick out a bit. I go where ever I need in it and park where ever as well.
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Old 09-21-2016, 12:39 PM   #22
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At 15,000 lbs you going to have a pin weight between 3000 (20%) and 3750 (25%) add to the 200 lbs hitch and couple people at 400 lbs you probably going to have hard time find a SRW that can handle the upper end and maintain the GVWR with in specs.

Here is tow planer with some of the number you posted above
Estimating Tongue/Pin Weight from Dry Weights - Towing Planner

You probably are not going to get gas that is rated to tow that much weight.

You boarder line needing a DRW if your weights end up on heavy side. If you are interested in staying with your trucks ratings and F250/2500 is out of the question.

I will just say this if you get a SRW F350 your are going to push the upper limit of the GVWR depending on how you load the 5er and what you loaded in the truck you could be over.


^This.

We can discuss the merits (or lack there of) of GVWR all day long... but your rear GAWR is key. The 3,000 to 3,750 lbs of pin weight are ALL on the rear axle.

Personally, I don't sweat my GVWR, however I don't go over my GAWR's or tire ratings.

Without a DRW, you are pushing it... or are way over.

I have a 2016 F250. Empty, the rear axle weighs 3,100 lbs. Add 3,500 lbs to that and I would be 6,700 lbs. You need to look at a truck with a rear GAWR of 7,000 lbs or more.

What kinds of rear GAWR 's do the 1-ton SRW trucks have?
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:00 PM   #23
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Rear axle is my big concern as it was with my current rig which is right at the max. I am going to the dealer tomorrow to test ride a new 2016 F350 for grins and then I will get the rear axle limits on it, a duelly, and the F450.
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:30 PM   #24
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^This.

We can discuss the merits (or lack there of) of GVWR all day long... but your rear GAWR is key. The 3,000 to 3,750 lbs of pin weight are ALL on the rear axle.

Personally, I don't sweat my GVWR, however I don't go over my GAWR's or tire ratings.

Without a DRW, you are pushing it... or are way over.

I have a 2016 F250. Empty, the rear axle weighs 3,100 lbs. Add 3,500 lbs to that and I would be 6,700 lbs. You need to look at a truck with a rear GAWR of 7,000 lbs or more.

What kinds of rear GAWR 's do the 1-ton SRW trucks have?
Some people pick and choose the ratings they thinks are important - I go with all the ratings and GVWR is the just one of them. With my current setup I could exceed the GCWR before I exceed the Axle Ratings so do blow that off to or does it count? What ratings do you ignore and which ones do your think the Manufacture thinks you should follow? Why would the Manufacture put GVWR limits on their trucks when the big three are try to be the "Best in Class Payload" instead of using the much higher Axle Ratings?
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:35 PM   #25
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Loaded, that's going to have 3,400+ pounds of hitch weight. Add in you, the wife, fifth wheel hitch and some gear in the truck and that's likely going to exceed the stickered ratings of many 3/4-ton trucks (250). The 250 will pull it, you just have to decide your willingness to exceed the stickers (which is a huge debate on RV forums).

For a 40' fifth wheel, I wanted the stability (perceived or otherwise) of a dually. But, going into this- I was a neophyte at towing. I know my friends in SRW trucks are regularly talking about getting a dually next. It's not for everyone, of course. But being our daily driver, you get used to it.

Personally, I'd look for something with a payload capacity of 4,000+ lbs.

I prefer a long bed. If I opted for a short bed, I definitely would have an automatic slider. Less thinking the better for me.
Instead of an automatic slider, a Sidewinder or Revolution hitch would be a better buy for a short bed.
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:52 PM   #26
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I personally have a 2008 SRW F350, 8 ft bed screw cab pulling a 32 ft Crusader, 8000 plus dry weight, 11000 plus GVWR. I have the 6.4 engine with 3.55 axle. I would recommend the 8 ft bed with a slider hitch, 7.3 engine, but with that much weight, I'd want the dual rear wheel.
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Old 09-21-2016, 03:07 PM   #27
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I just talked to our RV dealer and their hitch guy suggested the duelly as well if you have a choice for the 3950BR and absolutely necessary with the big 5er toy haulers.
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Old 09-21-2016, 03:48 PM   #28
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Rear axle is my big concern as it was with my current rig which is right at the max. I am going to the dealer tomorrow to test ride a new 2016 F350 for grins and then I will get the rear axle limits on it, a duelly, and the F450.
I checked for a long time. Listened to many full timers. Here was my end choice. Safety was #1 concern.
2013F-350 DRW 8' bed diesel
GVWR-14K
FGAWR-5940
RGAWR-9650
Payload 5300
Truck Wt 7930
GCWR30.5K
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air lift
All the toys

CamperGCWR15.5K
hwy loaded 10-11mpg
hwy unloaded 17+
Stoping and starting, what I need when I need it is there.


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Old 09-21-2016, 03:51 PM   #29
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Amazing with the 3.73 rear end and gas engine the F350 Screw SRW only has 900 lbs more towing capacity than my F150 Eco Screw with max tow and also a 3.73 rear end on the spec. Payload is still quite a bit lower on the F150, however. It does appear a duelly is needed to get enough payload for that loaded pin weight plus cargo.

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VERY NICE!! That has the 3.55 axle; I thought you could get a higher ratio but upon further investigation that is the highest without going to a DRW

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...tyPU_Sep28.pdf
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Old 09-21-2016, 04:05 PM   #30
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That is where I am headed quickly. What are you towing?

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I checked for a long time. Listened to many full timers. Here was my end choice. Safety was #1 concern.
2013F-350 DRW 8' bed diesel
GVWR-14K
FGAWR-5940
RGAWR-9650
Payload 5300
Truck Wt 7930
GCWR30.5K
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air lift
All the toys

CamperGCWR15.5K
hwy loaded 10-11mpg
hwy unloaded 17+
Stoping and starting, what I need when I need it is there.


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