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Old 09-21-2016, 04:09 PM   #31
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Just went through a similar thing myself. Went from my 2012 F150HD to my 2016 PSD. For what I need a SRW is more than sufficient.

For this weight I personally think you can get away from the SRW, but if it isn't your daily driver etc I'd go DRW (just can't get my head wrapped around commuting in a DRW).

Oh and the ride difference in either the SRW or DRW takes some getting used. My fillings are still intact but coming loose.... I also came from a HD Payload with LT tires so the ride in my F150 wasn't exactly like gliding on a cloud to start with.
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Old 09-21-2016, 04:24 PM   #32
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I just retired but would still ride it around as my main vehicle. I worked from home the last fourteen years anyways. Lol
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Old 09-21-2016, 04:26 PM   #33
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Oh if you look at the payload on that spec sheet link the tongue and cargo weight are a lot better with the duelly.
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Old 09-21-2016, 04:35 PM   #34
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If you plan to drive some distances I would definitely stick to the dually... Eventually you'll hit high winds, semis passing too close, etc. & will appreciate the extra stability.

When using as your daily driver, add some sandbags to the back to soften the ride. That's what I do with my Ram 2500 & it helps a lot. Mileage doesn't suffer even with 700 lbs. of sandbags...
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Old 09-21-2016, 04:35 PM   #35
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Some people pick and choose the ratings they thinks are important - I go with all the ratings and GVWR is the just one of them. With my current setup I could exceed the GCWR before I exceed the Axle Ratings so do blow that off to or does it count? What ratings do you ignore and which ones do your think the Manufacture thinks you should follow? Why would the Manufacture put GVWR limits on their trucks when the big three are try to be the "Best in Class Payload" instead of using the much higher Axle Ratings?


I know which ones I can ignore because in the specific case of 3/4 tons and their 10,000 GVWR, it is a paper rating and not one of capability. For my F250, it is identical to an F350 SRW.

Hopefully this doesn't get into yet another war... like the topic usually does.
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Amazing with the 3.73 rear end and gas engine the F350 Screw SRW only has 900 lbs more towing capacity than my F150 Eco Screw with max tow and also a 3.73 rear end on the spec. Payload is still quite a bit lower on the F150, however. It does appear a duelly is needed to get enough payload for that loaded pin weight plus cargo.


That F350 towing capacity is a very conservative number and can tow that all day long without even breaking a sweat. The towing capacity on an F150 are pushing the envelope for the 1/2 ton wars.

Try towing with a Super Duty and you will understand. It is night and day difference.
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I have a 39.5 foot 14,100 lbs 5er and pulling it with a 2015 F350 SuperCab PSD SRW with 143.5" wheelbase. Everyone one of my numbers are under but real close and here is my scale weights in Towing Planner. Actual Weights - Fifth Wheel Weights from CAT Scales - Towing Planner

I believe that even with the numbers are OK this 5er is to big for my my truck. On a nice calm day it tows great and it has more power then i need but it should since the same engine that is the F250, F350, F350 DRW and the F450 DRW truck. But with side wind it hard to keep in your lane and some gusting winds can be white knuckle. Yesterday we solved that problem since next summer I want to travels will be over 15,000 miles we purchased a 12,100 lbs 5er that is not as tall and 34'11" long. We still going to be at the upper end of the weights but less of profile on the windy days.

We have decided that we would rather deal with a smaller 5er rather then the DRW and long truck.
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When people start exceeding numbers I just don't stand the reasoning. Take a F350 with 11,500 GVWR Class 3 truck. A SRW Class 3 truck can have GVWR up to 14,000 pounds. Ram SRW are up over 12,000 lbs. If axle ratings are the real limits why won't Ford be "Best In Class Payload" and use the axle ratings instead of the lower GVWR? Why doesn't Ford follow RAMS lead and raise the GVWR? There must be a reason! Could it be safety or is something else the limits that truck from carrying that weight. Just food for thought.


Added Comment - My 5er is front living room with about 80% of the storage is over and aft of the 5ers axle. The more I load the lower pin weight, if it this was rear living I expect I would be way over my GVWR.
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I worked with Ford's towing folks directly (they produce the spec sheets) on my current truck when I was sizing and since they now follow the testing standards (at least for the F150) their numbers are no longer marketing as they once were. Any generalities folks now make about one truck vs the other like suggesting the specs are wrong are generally incorrect. Go with the specs. I will call the same guy again as I consider a large 5er. I drove my brother-in-laws Keystone Sprinter 39' pulled by an F250 and it was over payload by more than 500 lbs. My F150 tows my 37' 9000# TT better IMO. Only the specs matter. Super Duty is a marketing term.

I will contact Ford (towing - not the dealer) again with what I have learned and see what they say.

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That F350 towing capacity is a very conservative number and can tow that all day long without even breaking a sweat. The towing capacity on an F150 are pushing the envelope for the 1/2 ton wars.

Try towing with a Super Duty and you will understand. It is night and day difference.
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I never considered the weight shift of the design with the front living room. In my discussion with Ford they went conservative on my specific F150 configuration's ratings as they described how they arrived at the final numbers. They also tested the heck out of it in extreme conditions which I posted in another thread (J2807). They only did the same for the F250 F350 starting in 2017 but he said the numbers are real close for prior years. He said in no uncertain terms the newer F150s with max tow and HD can easily out-spec certain configurations of F250s.

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When people start exceeding numbers I just don't stand the reasoning. Take a F350 with 11,500 GVWR Class 3 truck. A SRW Class 3 truck can have GVWR up to 14,000 pounds. Ram SRW are up over 12,000 lbs. If axle ratings are the real limits why won't Ford be "Best In Class Payload" and use the axle ratings instead of the lower GVWR? Why doesn't Ford follow RAMS lead and raise the GVWR? There must be a reason! Could it be safety or is something else the limits that truck for carrying that weight. Just food for thought.


Added Comment - My 5er is front living room with about 80% of the storage is over and aft of the 5ers axle. The more I load the lower pin weight, it this was rear living I expect I would be way over my GVWR.
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