Originally Posted by tbln930
In researching more fifth wheels it does become apparent that they are all not balanced the same. Some now shift some weight back more and I see pin weights empty vary by 800+ lbs. or more for 5ers with the same empty weight or very close. I wonder if shifting weight back affects the tow much?
Traditionally, 5vers have a much greater pin weight than a TT's tongue weight due to the position of the axles (farther back on the 5ver). This is common knowledge and makes sense in an evenly distributed load.
Now, with the uniqueness of a camper and everything it contains inside, it makes sense the camper manufactures could take advantage of that by moving heavier things to the rear and/or directly over the axles in order to lighten the pin.
Appliances, kitchen, storage etc. Redesign things so the basement, batteries, water storage, etc. is in the rear and things get lighter up front in a hurry. The basement might not be realistic, however batteries, propane tanks, etc. all sorts of things. Heck, with a properly designed HVAC ductwork, the a/c unit could be mounted in the rear.
Given the more stable trailering characteristics of a 5ver, I would think the pin could be lightened quite a bit before the towing experience and/or safety was compromised.