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Old 03-16-2014, 09:11 PM   #1
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What tows a 15,000lb 5th Wheel???

My son wants to enter the RV world. He has his sights set on a 10-13,000 lb 5th wheel and is considering his tow vehicle. He is partial to the Ford F250. He is torn between a diesel or the gas engine.

He being led to believe that occasionally towing the 5th wheel and just driving back and forth to work will do more harm than good to a diesel engine. Every where he turns for advice, he gets a different opinion.

Are there any experienced users out that that can offer advice in his choice of gas or diesel F250 for a 10-13,000 lb RV?
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:13 PM   #2
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an F350 dually is in order here, or any other dually, as the pin weight of a camper that size it most likely to much for most any 3/4 ton truck. As far as gas or diesel, gas will do it, diesel will do it with less effort and less fuel.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:15 PM   #3
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My fifth wheel weighs in somewhere between 13,800 and 14,800 pounds depending on how we're loaded. We have pin weights (the amount pushing down on the truck at the king pin) of 2,300 - 2,500 lbs. which is actually fairly low for a camper this size (about 17% vs. the "standard" of 20%-25%).

I'm pulling with a 2013 Ram 3500 dual rear wheel truck. We are usually within 500-800 pounds of the truck's GVWR with this setup.

IMO, that's out of a 3/4-ton truck's range but lots of folks are doing it.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:16 PM   #4
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Had a 15,000 lb Montana and towed it with a 3/4 ton chevy diesel and it wasn't enough truck. Traded it For a 1 ton dually diesel and worked out great.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:18 PM   #5
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Is there even a gasser out there rated to pull a 15k fiver. I don't think there is. I know ford has the 6.2 but thought it was only good for 13k or so. Def not gonna be fun at all towing that heavy with a gasser. It would be better for his short commutes to work where as this is not good for the diesels. I would narrow down the fifth wheel first then seek a truck. Most 350/3500 srw diesels will
Pull the 15k fiver but a dually will be more stable.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:58 PM   #6
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Our 5er weighs close to 16,500. Our TV is a 3/4 ton GMC with a Duramax/Allison. We get 11.2 mpg when towing. This is a SRW truck. The difference between a 3/4 vs a one ton is around 300 lbs towing capacity. There's a big difference in purchase price.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:05 PM   #7
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Our 5er weighs close to 16,500. Our TV is a 3/4 ton GMC with a Duramax/Allison. We get 11.2 mpg when towing. This is a SRW truck. The difference between a 3/4 vs a one ton is around 300 lbs towing capacity. There's a big difference in purchase price.
the difference in a 3/4 ton and a 1 ton single wheel is almost nothing in price. The difference in payload capacity, which is what you need for pin weight, between your truck and my single wheel 1 ton is 1600 lbs. That's a very big difference for a little more money. Just a little more for a dually, but it adds ALOT of towing capacity.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:35 PM   #8
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what people are stating, when they say short trips are not good on a diesel is if the engine doesn't reach operating temps before you shut it off, often, it tends to wear diff parts out faster but first it soots up the exhaust and affiliated emission parts, which add up to costly repairs even more costly if you can't fix them yourself.

as far a fiver that weight......1 ton dually all the way especially if he plans on long drives or interstate travel. if he is only driving 10 min's from home to camp or 50 miles or so then he could prob do just fine with 3/4 ton srw gasser. I am about 10500 lbs to 11k lbs loaded in just my fiver and I pull with a 1 ton f350 dually, pulled with a 3/4 ton f250 srw before. the f250 did they job and was ok but had it's moments but this f350 dually is far far more stable especially on the interstate when I get passed by rigs which isn't common it's usually the other way around since most are governed at 65 mph lol
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Old 03-16-2014, 11:00 PM   #9
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Until this year we pulled a 14500 dry weight
No clue. Loaded weight with a srw F350 2004 diesel
Which is for sale I might add on the classifieds. Also I am not a light packer. We just upgraded to a drw F450. The older truck did good. We did do the EGR delete kit. Besides that no problem
The upgrade was a lot due to the fact that it was just that vehicle time. We rotate on what gets upgraded on a schedule The new truck pulls the mountains like it was nothing. Sorry to ramble and hope this helps.

Final thought Diesel all the way! !
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I pull a 13-14 K lb fiver with an F250 V10 gasser and do quite well. If I pulled in the mountains, even a couple times a year, I'd probably be looking for a good used diesel, but my gas burner was only $11K and is paid for so fuel is cheap. I only drive an average of 15k miles a year. I also only have a 5 minute commute.

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