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Old 10-31-2014, 07:44 PM   #1
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What type of trailer to look at

Just wondering what type of trailer ( 5er) to look at that I could pull with my truck. Here are the specs of mine : 2009 GMC 1500 extended cab, 4.8L eng, auto trans, 3.23 rear gear, locking diff, factory tow package, 4600 lbs tow weight. Any ideas would help Thanks
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:11 PM   #2
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21 foot and smaller tongue pull trailer (traditional tongue on ball, not a fifth wheel) or Scamp Fifth Wheel. With that truck your payload capacity is just going to be too low to pull any fifth wheel, and likely any trailer over 21'. I am actually wondering if 21' would be too big.
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Old 11-01-2014, 10:54 AM   #3
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You're going to be very limited. As campingwilliamsons said you should probably get the idea of a 5er out if your head with that TV. A small lightweight TT is going to be your best bet but you'll have to watch weights very very close. Dont look at dry weights, you need to look at GVWR of the trailer because once you load up you'll be 800-1000 lbs heavier than the dry weight.


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Old 11-01-2014, 11:10 AM   #4
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You said your tow rating was 4600 lbs. I think you just lost another 200 lbs. My 2009 Silverado owners manual show 4400 lbs for your truck.

You're going to need a smaller trailer or a bigger truck.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:32 AM   #5
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Hey rockfordroo just double checked my truck spec sheet : model #C10753 extend cab 6'6" box , 2 wheel drive , tow weight for 3.23 gear is 4700lbs and with 3.73 gear is 6700lbs the V6 4.3L is 4400 lbs. What is the weight of your Roo19? I am able to change gear no problem.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:42 AM   #6
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You said your tow rating was 4600 lbs. I think you just lost another 200 lbs. My 2009 Silverado owners manual show 4400 lbs for your truck.

You're going to need a smaller trailer or a bigger truck.
His is only two wheel drive, that's where he gets the extra 200lbs.
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Hey rockfordroo just double checked my truck spec sheet : model #C10753 extend cab 6'6" box , 2 wheel drive , tow weight for 3.23 gear is 4700lbs and with 3.73 gear is 6700lbs the V6 4.3L is 4400 lbs. What is the weight of your Roo19? I am able to change gear no problem.
You can change the gear but also realize you're still probably not going to pull a 5th wheel with a 6700 lbs max tow.
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Doesn't have to be a 5er just want to know what I should start looking at that I could pull with my truck.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:17 PM   #9
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jfrauts:

You're right, I misread the manual.

My Roo 19 is 3383 lbs dry wt, 4770 lbs GVWR. Hitch wt is 370 lbs.
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I've got a Ford Explorer Sport Trac, 2000 or 2001, I always forget. It's small. I tow a Flagstaff MicroLite 18FBR without difficulty, but I'm in VA and mostly travel flat ground here. I'd never get anything bigger until I upgrade my TV...
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Rockfordroo How do you like the Roo19 ? What are the good and bad points with it?
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There is a lot more than overall manufacturers stated tow capacity to look at as that number is given on a best case scenario with nothing but a driver in the truck..... let's look at how to figure out what you can tow.

First load your truck up with all passengers, pets and gear that will be with you when camping. Now go to a local Cat scale and weigh your truck with a full tank of fuel plus all of the above mentioned items. Put the front axle on the first scale pad and the rear axle on the second scale pad. (Bring a broom handle as the button to push us at truckers height).

Now take your trucks total scaled weight and subtract it from your trucks gcwr to get your adjusted towing capacity. Trade your trucks scaled weight and subtract it from your trucks gvwr to get your available payload. Take your rear axle weight (drive axle on the paper) and subtract it from the max rawr to find out how much room you have available on your rear axle. You need to stay within all of these numbers with your loaded tt weights.

Your trailer tongue weight will be applied to your trucks payload. The dry tongue weight listed is kind of a useless number as it commonly does not include propane, battery etc. Your ideal tongue weight is 13-15% of the trailers loaded (not dry weight). You will not be taking a empty or dry trailer camping. Since you don't know how much weight you will be putting in, it is safer to calculate using tt gvwr, although I will tell you that on average people tend to add 1000-1500 lbs of gear, dishes, clothes etc to their tt.


You are going to be very limited in what you can tow with that truck.
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Old 11-02-2014, 12:25 AM   #13
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jfrauts: OVerall, I'm pretty happy with my Roo 19. The only real problem I've had is I had to replace a couple of the water heater bypass valves (the brass ones are junk). The shower's a bit tight. I have not had any leakage issues. Counter space is a bit lacking. I added a shelf in the corner cabinet by the door. Don't like the table legs, but then neither does anybody else!
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i would have to agree , you are very limited on what you can tow with that truck. even if you stay at or just under the max weight limits you will still find yourself under powered and probably wear the transmission out far faster than you think. the factory trans coolers aren't always large enough imo. if you do find something at max limits or just below, loaded weight i would strongly suggest air bags for stability!
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i would have to agree , you are very limited on what you can tow with that truck. even if you stay at or just under the max weight limits you will still find yourself under powered and probably wear the transmission out far faster than you think. the factory trans coolers aren't always large enough imo. if you do find something at max limits or just below, loaded weight i would strongly suggest air bags for stability!
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Once you've figured your weights out as delineated above, you will likely find yourself limited to a pop-up or a small lightweight HTT or TT.
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Thanks for all the reply's, I guess the only thing this truck is good to pull is the skin off a rice pudding.We were thinking of downsizing from the c-class but may have to rethink this.
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