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Old 01-10-2010, 06:59 PM   #1
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Whatcha think - weight police

SV 294 UVW = 5,000 Lbs

2008 Chevy Avy 5.3L 3.73 gears tow rating 7,000 Lbs

Living in Denver Colorado

It will be okay ??

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Old 01-10-2010, 09:42 PM   #2
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I think the question is will it be ok? Weight wise you'll be ok, even adding 1000 pounds for gas, awning, gear, etc. You didn't give tongue weight of the trailer or max for the Chevy, and make sure you look at the weight distributing hitch rating as for tongue weight. Get a good ant-sway hitch, and a good brake controller. You won't break any speed records unless you go over the side of one of those mountains. Watch your engine temp on long uphill pulls, and if you do have to pull over to let things cool, just let the engine idle so the coolant will continue to circulate. Also turn the AC off. That's my opinion, hope others' share theirs.
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Old 01-10-2010, 10:15 PM   #3
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I think the question is will it be ok? Weight wise you'll be ok, even adding 1000 pounds for gas, awning, gear, etc. You didn't give tongue weight of the trailer or max for the Chevy, and make sure you look at the weight distributing hitch rating as for tongue weight. Get a good ant-sway hitch, and a good brake controller. You won't break any speed records unless you go over the side of one of those mountains. Watch your engine temp on long uphill pulls, and if you do have to pull over to let things cool, just let the engine idle so the coolant will continue to circulate. Also turn the AC off. That's my opinion, hope others' share theirs.
Along with Windrider's excellent advice I would also suggest a transmission temperature gauge. If your transmission spends a lot of time hunting for gears or shifting back and forth it will build up heat really quickly even though your engine coolant temperatures might be fine. Many a transmission has been killed by overheating.
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Old 01-11-2010, 07:58 AM   #4
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You gave the UVW of that RV which is higher than the UVW listed on the website. If you gave the UVW of the unit as it sits on the dealers lot you'll probably be ok. You won't be real happy but if you watch what you carry and don't carry a full load of water you'll be ok. You said you live in Denver but you didn't say where you plan on camping. If you plan on many trips up to Medicine Bow you won't be happy at all.

The GVWR of that RV is 7547lbs. That's a bit close to the TV's rating but it's manageable.

My prediction is that a new TV is in your future! Not ragging on you, speaking from experience. I traded my 1500 in on the 2500 diesel exactly one year to the day because I was towing about the same weight you will be. Went to Yellowstone one time and the DW a & I decided, we have to have more truck. Let us know how it works out for you.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:43 AM   #5
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NWJeeper = my truck does have a trans temp gauge ill make sure to watch it.

Bama Rambler = we camp a lot in the mountains. we normally fill with water when we get there. I leased my truck and have only 2 years left. so if it can do me good for 2 seasons I can buy a diesel then.

I do have a very good good ant-sway , a good brake controller and weight distributing hitch.


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Old 01-11-2010, 11:37 AM   #6
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i pull a Roo 23SS, which has a fictional "dry" weight of around 4010lb.s with an '07 Avy.
with the standard options, no battery and no propane, it weighs 4471lbs.
we travel with it loaded around 5200lbs. it has no problems pulling it.
but you'll be maxed out with the one you're looking at unless you really watch what you load. remember, whatever is in the Avy over the 150lb. driver, will subtract from the 7200 tow rating number.

personally, i wouldn't want to pull anything bigger than what i have. but i have to pull over the Sierras, Cascades and the Siskyous to get anywhere.
since you live in the Rockys, i think you need to look at something smaller. if you lived in Florida or Kansas, maybe you could get away with it.
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:30 PM   #7
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You should be OK on the weights, as long as you keep the payload in the truck pretty light. The Avy has a 7200 lb. GVWR,, so after you hang a trailer on the back along with gear in the bed along with passangers up front, then you might be approaching your max. I should know.....I am geting near my max. with my F150 and a smaller trailer, although my trailer does have a pretty heavy tongue weight.

I can't figure out the Chevy website very well, but I think it states that the 2010 Avys have a 11,500 GCWR. If that is so, and you keep your Avy wieight around 7000 lbs, then that only allows 4500 lbs for the trailer. Now, part of that weight is going to be already included in the truck weight, since the trailer is hanging on your bumper. Again comparing to my setup, my trailer weighed 4700 lbs. empty (advertised @ ~4300 lbs.) and I travel with about 800 lbs. of gear in it, including a full water tank.

My big concern is that you are pulling a 33 foot trailer with a wheelbase on your TV at 130". According to 1 popular chart, you would pushing the limit with that setup:

110" 20' **** 150" 30'
114" 21' **** 154" 31'
118" 22' **** 158" 32'
122" 23' **** 162" 33'
126" 24' **** 166" 34'
130" 25' **** 170" 35'
134" 26' **** 174" 36'
138" 27' **** 178" 37'
142" 28' **** 182" 38'
146" 29' **** 186" 39'

Your truck will make you take it easy up those moutains around Denver, but make sure you take it easy going down also.
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SV 294 = tongue weight 547 , UVW 5,000

Avy K-1500 (4WD) 5.3L V8 3.73 = Max trailer 7,000 GCWR 13,000

I'm sure pulling long passes at 12,000 feet will be slow but I do only pull it 12 times a year. I can drive 2nd gear at 20mph if I need to.
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SV 294 = tongue weight 547 , UVW 5,000

Avy K-1500 (4WD) 5.3L V8 3.73 = Max trailer 7,000 GCWR 13,000


I'm sure pulling long passes at 12,000 feet will be slow but I do only pull it 12 times a year. I can drive 2nd gear at 20mph if I need to.
The 13,000 lb. GCWR is better than the 11,500 lb one that I found on the Chevy site. Like I said, that was just the basic one I found on the main page. All of your weights should be in line. Do a couple of weigh-ins when you get everything setup, and that way you can tweak your WDH.

The 5.3L with 3.73 gears should serve you well. You will be going a lot more than 20 mph up those hills. I have a 5.4L with 3.73s in my truck, and that combo does a good job. I do have to 2nd gear it up some of the curvey mountains road around here, but I could do 55 mph if I wanted to wind the engine.....which I don't. It is just too much for 3rd gear, though.

You will appreciate the tranny temperature gauge. My truck did not have that, so I added a ScanGauge II. It has gone to 200 degrees f when pulling the hills in 2nd and torque converter unlocked, and that is about the maximum that I like to see it. Usually the temp stays in the 150 to 170 range pulling my trailer.
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