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Old 08-11-2015, 04:05 PM   #11
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I won't speak to which brand to buy (I have a F250 with the 6.0 diesel, bought it used) but I will say that the difference between pulling with gas vs. diesel is night and day.
I bought a "lightweight" SV291 thinking my Z71 with 5.3 would pull it with no problem, I was mistaken. It struggled the entire time. The F250 has no problem at all and fuel mileage doubled. (6 to 12) Haven't pulled it to the mountains yet. I wouldn't even try with the Z71.
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Old 08-11-2015, 04:32 PM   #12
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I towed a 33' TT w/my F250 super duty V10. Personally, I think the gas's burners should have a look at. There must be a reason most of the class a coaches on the road today are powered by the ford V10 engine. Maybe repair costs and fuel costs. Just my 2 cents!
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:16 PM   #13
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There's a lot of information to digest here. My husband is looking at a 2003 Ford 350 dually diesel with a 6.0 engine and a 6 3/4 truck bed, under 50k miles with two previous owners. It's through a dealership and we are babes in the woods. I'm thinking we should let this one go until we become a bit more educated, especially since it seems a bit high at close to $20K for a 13 year old vehicle. It's almost a chicken/egg situation. Tow vehicle or rv first?
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:30 PM   #14
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I owned a 2005 F350 with the 6.0 diesel. Most unreliable new vehicle I ever owned! Be aware that some versions of the Chevy Duramax and 2007-2008 Dodge Cummins also had problems. My advice is either educate yourself about diesels or find a dealer you really trust. I'm also of the school that thinks you should pick your trailer first, then buy a truck that is more than capable of towing it safely and comfortably.
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Old 08-11-2015, 11:01 PM   #15
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I bought a new Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins Mega Cab. I love it but...I should have bought a 3500 for the increased tow capacity if needed, and got the Crew Cab for better visibility when backing. Mega cab has too many blindspots when backing 35 foot 5er!
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Old 08-11-2015, 11:28 PM   #16
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Avoid the 6.0 ltr Ford like the plague. Nothing but trouble from day one. I personally recommend the LML Duramax/Allison with tow package as I own one with only 71,000 miles, but no problems. Just towed a 10,600 lb, 34 ft TT from one end of the Blue Ridge Parkway to the other end [465 miles of nothing but steep ups and downs].
If you are going with a 5er, seriously consider a dually. IMHO
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Old 08-11-2015, 11:42 PM   #17
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I am amazed by the people towing heavy bumper pull toy haulers with Tundras and other 1/2 ton tucks with gasoline engines. I had a 2002 K2500HD with 4.10 gears with the gas engine and it absolutely wouldn't go over 40 mph pulling 6000 lbs up a 7 percent or more grade. I pulled a 10+ percent grade in 100 degree heat one time and thought I was going to slide downhill backwards. Bought a 2008 Duramax K2500HD and can not believe how well it pulls the same, and heavier rig. Same grades, and I can pull as fast as I want too. And, I get almost double the mileage towing with the diesel than I got with the gas engine. I'll never have a gas engine truck again.


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Old 08-11-2015, 11:45 PM   #18
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When we upgraded from a 25' TT to a 37' 5th wheel we went with a 2008 F350. As noted above the 2007 and earlier Fords have the 6.0. 2008 - 2010 have the 6.4 a very strong and reliable drive train.
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Old 08-12-2015, 02:38 AM   #19
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My husband is looking at a 2003 Ford 350 dually diesel with a 6.0 engine and a 6 3/4 truck bed, under 50k miles... it seems a bit high at close to $20K for a 13 year old vehicle. It's almost a chicken/egg situation. Tow vehicle or rv first?
OP, since we also needed to buy a TV & TT within the same year, we also chose to buy both used. First we went to local RV dealers & a RV show to narrow-down our floor plan choices. (Once you fall in love with a floor plan concept, it's hard to consider anything else, especially anything smaller...) Older TT's & 5ers tend to be more heavy for any given floor plan, so I went back 2-4 years & wrote-down all of the weights of used TT's we would consider owning. Look at the GROSS weight of the 5er you are considering & make sure your truck is enough to handle a fully loaded RV. This gives you a safety margin and allows you to haul water into locations when needed... In our case, we wanted a TT with 2 slides which meant we could no longer consider a 1/2 ton - we needed to get a 3/4 ton (newer gas would work in our case but since you are looking at 5ers & will likely go from CA up into the mountains you should keep looking at diesel 1 tons like your DH is already doing...)

I looked at about (20) 2000-2008 era trucks (diesel & gas). All of the diesels were either pricey or rusty (here in Ohio)... It's important to avoid lemons produced during this era, like the Ford 6.0 diesel on the 3500 you are looking at... The gas trucks were a mixed bag (avoid Ford's with 3 valves...) but most of the older gassers do not have enough tow capacity for a 5er unless you find a V10 gas hog. (A V10 paired with a 4 speed tranny will probably only get 5-7 mpg towing & will struggle out West in the mountains...) Ram makes a 6.4 Hemi now but it would limit your 5er choices & also strain in the mountains...

Newer trucks benefit from improved engine & tranny technology (better mpg) & did not have our Ohio rust... To keep within our budget, we chose a 2 year-old Ram 2500 CC ST (stock) w/5.7 Hemi (gas) & high miles (85K miles) for $14K. Buying used means assuming more risk, but ours still had the balance of Ram's 5 Year/100K mile powertrain warranty. At 96K miles, my Hemi blew during my daily commute & Ram replaced it under warranty, no questions asked. Replacement has a 3 year/100K mile warranty. I've owned the TV for 2 years now & it's almost paid-off so I'm really pleased with Ram right now...

Once we had the truck (in 2013), we shopped for (used) TT's. Our truck is a 2011 & we found a 2011 PrimeTime TT so they make a pretty nice pair... Combine cost for both was under $35K & combined payments under $400/mo. which means we can double/triple payments & have all paid-off in less than 5 years... IMO vehicles & RV's depreciate too quickly to buy new especially since the RV boom has depreciated recent build quality...
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Old 08-12-2015, 03:19 AM   #20
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More than 50% of RVs are actually OUTSIDE of their legal limits in at least one parameter.
Says who? Does the NHTSA know this?
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