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Old 02-15-2016, 02:12 PM   #21
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Dry...Gross...

To quote an old saying "you don't know what you don't know." Although the DW and I had camped and pulled our families' TT in the past, we didn't know how to approach the purchase of our first rig. Luckily I am "detail-oriented", and yes there are other names for this trait. I did do a lot of leg work before we purchased our Windjammer. However, I missed completely that the stated hitch weight was 880# and that weight is not a real world number because of the variables of loading and placement of weight. Weighed our rig on the way home and found that our hitch was actually 1075# for our 1/2 ton TV. Had the dealer take back the 1000# WDH and bought a 1400# to handle the actual weight once loaded.

So, back to the old saying, if you are new you have to know all of these things before you jump in and buy something too heavy. But how? This forum has been a Godsend of information (and fun too) that has helped me understand hitches, GVW, tires, and lots of other things since we became RV'ers two years ago. Still, what do I NOT know? Before everyone responds, I already know the answer is PLENTY, but I now know of several places to do research before I leap to the 5th wheel purchase shortly.

The question is how do we get this out to others and save them some trouble? Let's be willing to talk to anyone that says they are interested in purchasing a RV and let them know to check forums, TV ratings, and such BEFORE then get excited about that 41' 19,000# 5er that they are going to pull behind their 1/2 ton.
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:22 PM   #22
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They post it that way because they can. Dealers don't care about towing as long as you can get it off of their lot. They just want to sell you as much TT or 5'ver as they can. And many/most owners don't care about the specs/regulations, judging by many posts you read here and on other RV forums.

It's almost as if it's a contest - to tow as heavy a load as you can with the least possible tow vehicle.
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:32 PM   #23
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The dealer where I got my TH the first think the salesman ask me was what am I going to tow with. Then only showed me units that I could tow fully loaded.
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:34 PM   #24
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They quote dry weight because they don't know what you're going to put in it. It will differ for every happy camper.
^^^ Probably the most accurate answer in this thread.

Found this with a bit of googling:

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Unloaded Vehicle Weight or Dry Weight (UVW) or (DW): is the actual weight of the trailer as built at the factory. The UVW does not include passengers, cargo, dealer installed options, personal belongings, water, or LP gas.
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:48 PM   #25
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^^^ Probably the most accurate answer in this thread.

Found this with a bit of googling:
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Unloaded Vehicle Weight or Dry Weight (UVW) or (DW): is the actual weight of the trailer as built at the factory. The UVW does not include passengers, cargo, dealer installed options, personal belongings, water, or LP gas.


Exactly ......... Based on that statement it will be that weight coming from the factory and likely never that low again..........

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Old 02-15-2016, 03:15 PM   #26
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The dealer where I got my TH the first think the salesman ask me was what am I going to tow with. Then only showed me units that I could tow fully loaded.
Same here ~~ actually asked that question twice and told my wife "no" to one she really liked. He told her unless going to buy a new 1 ton that would not work.
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Old 02-15-2016, 03:45 PM   #27
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when i bought my HTT, UVW was the weight when it left the factory.

Dry Weight(in brochures and on websites)was the weight for a stripped-down version of the trailer.

my HTT's UVW was almost exactly 400lbs. more than the brochure/website "Dry" weight amount.
that was for the so-called "options" that nearly all RVs have: a/c, microwave, spare tire, oven, awning and so on.

very few manufacturers include those things in the "Dry" weight number, on brochures and websites.
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I looked for a dry weight about 2500-3000 lbs less than my rated tow capacity. Having the dry weight listed was convenient for me.
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I looked for a dry weight about 2500-3000 lbs less than my rated tow capacity. Having the dry weight listed was convenient for me.
Just askin .......So what would you do if after you bought it based on the dry weight.... you loaded it ready for camping and now found it to be over your rated tow capacity on a CAT scale ............ that is a very likely senerio......

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............

What most don't realize is 'towing capacity' is based on a flat trailer with that weight steel loaded on it, NOT a 30' + parachute with a frontal area of at least 64 sq. ft. and the sides are a 100 sq. ft.+ sail
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