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Old 02-15-2016, 04:52 PM   #31
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I have not seen this in years but at one time they said to stay below the TVs rated capacity by 10-15% when towing a travel trailer. Probably for that reason.

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Old 02-15-2016, 04:54 PM   #32
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I always laugh at the "my truck can pull 22,000" but u bet you'll run out of payload long before the 22,000

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Old 02-15-2016, 05:25 PM   #33
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Glad you were able to see that, but one point you are trying to make is pushing back on "Salesmen ship 101" So it is far from the only point that all of us need to pay attention to when looking to purchase ANYTHING!
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Old 02-15-2016, 06:53 PM   #34
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Just askin .......So what would you do if after you bought it based on the dry weight.... you loaded it ready for camping and now found it to be over your rated tow capacity on a CAT scale ............ that is a very likely senerio......

More than a few have bought another TV. More than that start towing if not horribly over to where they feel unsafe. Others find out they may be over so never hit a scale. JMO~~~
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:11 PM   #35
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I was at a camper show, and there was a Prime Time Tracer AIR250 and showed a picture of a Jeep Liberty "I Can Tow This, I weigh 4900lbs". Now, owning a Liberty, I knew they were full of caca. I just look at the yellow sticker, add dry and payload quickly in my head, and see if it looks towable to me.
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:53 PM   #36
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When I first started towing a tt, I understood my tow capacity but not my payload. I actually remember seeing tongue weight and thinking what does that have to do with anything? When I bought I was beginning to understand and asked the mechanic setting my hitch up.... my tv is rated for a hitch weight of 910 lbs, thus says 800 lb tongue weight, will I be ok? He said sure the wdh will keep you within your limits... ha I had 1000 lb tongue weight at the scale.

When shopping for that first trailer I knew enough to shop by gvwr but actually had a dealer tell me I was shopping incorrectly. I had a tow capacity of 9100 lbs so I was looking at 8000 lb gvwr trailers. He tried to sell me a 9000 lb dry weight 35' tt for an Armada. I ran away from that dealer and never looked back.

On the flip side I had a dealer steer me away from a tt that was out of my tow capacity. I have also seen where it us an education issue on the dealers side. I had an F250 with a very low payload (1500 lbs). Because twas a diesel they tried to tell me it could tow any 5er or tt on their lot. They didn't believe me about the payload until they saw the sticker for themselves. Man I should have made a bet with them.

I agree when buying anything you need to do your research and remember caveat emptor. Do not expect someone else to know it for you because they won't. I also agree with the poster that said you don't know what you don't know. I didn't know what a wdh was until I found rv forums and started asking questions. I took ideas from the forums and then furthered my own knowledge with my own research.

In terms of educating others, I have been known to talk with other couples at rv shows and dealerships. DH has begun grabbing me by the sleeve and pulling me out of a trailer when he hears key words because he knows I'm getting ready to tick off a salesman.
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:56 PM   #37
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Just askin .......So what would you do if after you bought it based on the dry weight.... you loaded it ready for camping and now found it to be over your rated tow capacity on a CAT scale ............ that is a very likely senerio......

I'd have made my wife unload about 2000 pounds if her stuff.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:10 PM   #38
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I'd have made my wife unload about 2000 pounds if her stuff.
Oh dear... I'd be a single man if I did that.. It was easier to unload my stuff! Otherwise I'd be in WmTires relationship thread a lot more... JUST SAYING!!

Asquared: I agree it is interesting to peruse the shows, we will be heading to MD for one this weekend. I look at the stickers, the weights, the "your SUV can tow this" flashy stickers and look at the poor souls who fall for this. I was right there with you when I started as well. I grew up hauling heavy construction equipment and driving fire trucks so I had an idea of "weight" but 10 years later with an RV and I think I am finally starting to get it!
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:24 PM   #39
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Sometimes when you are buying all the uvw, gvwr, ccc, towing capacity don't have any bearing on the purchase. (don't blast me yet read on) I bought my TT not caring about any of those, I wanted the floor plan, no wife with stuff (it's just me and Jake). I also knew my one ton could easily pull any of the trailers I looked at. What folks have said about weights is very important and should be taken into account, I'm just saying how I approached this TT purchase.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:19 PM   #40
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More get lost when buying a 5er than a TT. That 8000# TT can be towed by some 1/2 tons with 800 - 900 on the tongue at 10%. The 5er at 20% is a minimum of 1700# of payload. That is over many half tons before loading truck or trailer. Some 3/4 do not have much leeway from there either.
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