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Old 09-12-2012, 10:55 PM   #11
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Seems you really have to choose what will work better for your family. We also have 5 acres, and horses, so we're hauling manure, getting feed, etc. We used to have an Explorer, which I loved most of the time. ONE time I used it to get hay...had to put it inside of course...notice I said ONE time? LOL

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Old 09-12-2012, 10:58 PM   #12
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FWIW I highly recommend a weight dist hitch. I have one on my Durango with an antisway bar and it makes a huge difference.

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Old 09-13-2012, 06:58 AM   #13
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My family is me and DW, 16 year old daughter, 12 year old son (he is as tall as his sister), and an Old English Sheepdog. I have an 07 Expedition. It has the HD tow package, 3.73 gears, self leveling air suspension. The transmission does not have a tow/haul mode. I'm pulling a Tracer 3000BHS. The yellow sticker shows a dry weight of 6017 lbs and the GVWR is 7727 lbs. I'm using the Reese dual cam HP WD hitch and sway control.

The truck pulls the camper great. I usually keep it between 60 and 65 on the interstates when the speed limit is 65 mph. If I'm on interstate I will leave the OD on and the truck will pretty much stay in 5th gear unless i start going down a hill it will drop into 6th. Going up hills I will turn off the OD. If I'm on 2 lane roads I will lock out the OD. It will hold speed up any hill I've driven up in my travels. There have been times when I look down at the speedometer and I'm doing 70 mph. I can accelerate up hills but it will use a lot of gas. The sway control works great. I have no more sway than i did pulling a 29' Sunline with a 99 F-150 Supercab.

I do notice the short wheelbase occasionally. On the other hand we like campsites that back into the woods as opposed to pullthroughs in a field. We have been in some sites that a longer TV would not have been able to swing the camper onto the site. The one thing I would have done differently is when I had to replace the tires I should have gone to LT rated tires instead of the P rated. When I tow the camper I air the tires up to 49psi and that helps a lot. They are rated to 51psi cold. I normally run them at 37psi. I have towed without airing up the tires for a short distance like taking it to get it inspected and i can feel the tires squirming around under it extra weight.

As for mileage I've gotten between high 7 and 10 mpg when towing. The 7 mpg was into a pretty good wind. Normally I'm in the high 8 to 9 range. Empty normal running around I'm getting 15-16 mpg.

I did learn once that the air suspension will hold the TW of the camper to the point that there is not enough weight on the spring bars for the sway control to be effective.

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Old 09-13-2012, 08:09 AM   #14
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A few questions for Arlee: Did your Expy come with a brake controller? If so, why did you abandon it for the Prodigy? What about a weight distribution hitch and sway control bars? do you use those? .
Some of the upper end Expys do come with integrated brake controller. The one I got which was just the standard 4X2 XLT model, did not come with the controller already installed. All Expy's DO come with the wiring for the brake controller already installed, so all you have to do is purchase one and plug it in. I did the install myself for the brake controller after watching this video:

Trailer Brake Controller Installation - 2011 Ford Expedition Video |

It was just that easy - took maybe 20 min tops. The Ford dealer wanted over $300 to put in an aftermarket (not integrated, and non-digital) controller. I bought my prodigy and did it myself for a little over $100.

Also I should have mentioned in my previous post that we do use the weight distribution hitch with a friction sway bar. According to the Expy specs anything over 6,000 lbs must have a WD hitch. I would frankly recommend WD w/ sway bar when towing anything for long distances. I used to tow my popup without a WD hitch (weighed around 3,200) and if it was the least windy or big truck went by, it would sway like crazy.

For me the deciding factor would be how many seats you need. If you need the extra passenger space, (whether if towing or just driving around town) I'd go with the Expy. If you don't need more than 5 seats, then a F150 or 250 will always give you a bit more performance when towing. If it was just my husband and I, we would probably go with a crew-cab pickup. With 4 kids, the Expy is right for us!
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:32 AM   #15
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here's what I'm seeing between the 2 - the "expy" has more interior seating - what, 8 vs 5 ? - the ecoboost will get over 20 mpg when not towing (what percentage of your driving ISN'T towing ?)

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Old 09-13-2012, 01:48 PM   #16
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The additional space in an enclosed compartment is more the issue than seating. Now that I've learned that the Expy is a capable TV for me, that brings the Expy to the forefront. Yet saving that extra cash on the road can't be ignored. I live in a small town with no traffic issues, so we would get about the maximum EPA rated mpg (our Toyota Avalon is rated at 19-28 and we get 27) for either vehicle.

The Expy is rated 14/20 and the F-150 Ecoboost is 16/22. Considering our normal driving situation, I could live with the Expy getting 17 to 19mpg. Now comes what may be the decisive question: How much better gas mileage could I expect from the F-150 while towing the trailer?
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:54 PM   #17
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:04 PM   #18
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If the F-150 doesn't provide better mpg during towing, then the Expy it will be. Can any other F-150 Ecoboost owners confirm what they get for gas mileage?

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