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Old 08-16-2013, 03:33 PM   #1
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Yes...Another tongue weight senario

I have read many threads about tongue weight on the FRF. But I have not seen a discussion about the inclusion of the weight of the hitch itself having a bearing on the "total hitch weight". Has anyone concidered this additional weight of over 110lbs (in my case) in calculating or determining your tongue weight, or for that matter, the total GVW on your tv. This would include 5er's as well and those hitches aren't featherweights. It's like adding another passenger.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:39 PM   #2
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Hitch weight lowers your total tv ccc or in your description added to tounge weight.
We mention it often.

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Old 08-16-2013, 03:46 PM   #3
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Hitch weight lowers your total tv ccc or in your description added to tounge weight.
We mention it often.

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I'm confused by your reply. I am only referring to the actual weight of the hitch itself be it WD or 5th wheel.
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I'm confused by your reply. I am only referring to the actual weight of the hitch itself be it WD or 5th wheel.
That's what I'm saying also.

We/I quite often discuss with weight questions replying that the hitch wether it be a receiver hitch or 5th wheel will decrease your trucks cargo carrying capacity by the actual weight of hitch.

Neither "add" hitch weight.
The only decrease ccc.
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That's what I'm saying also.

We/I quite often discuss with weight questions replying that the hitch wether it be a receiver hitch or 5th wheel will decrease your trucks cargo carrying capacity by the actual weight of hitch.

Neither "add" hitch weight.
The only decrease ccc.
Ok, now I gotcha! Same thing but I just had not seen any postings mentioning taking the weight of the hitch into consideration.
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Ok, now I gotcha! Same thing but I just had not seen any postings mentioning taking the weight of the hitch into consideration.
Normally because there intertwined into other weight related questions.
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Old 08-16-2013, 04:50 PM   #7
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Hitch weight forward of the ball is truck payload.
Hitch weight AFT of the ball is camper payload.
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Agreed. The weight of the hitch itself, for fifth wheels, comes off of the payload of the truck.
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Agreed. The weight of the hitch itself, for fifth wheels, comes off of the payload of the truck.
As does a reciever hitch.
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6 of one, half-dozen of the other. But I like Herk's comment. Nice and simple.

At the end of the day, once hooked up and running, you should not exceed any of the GAWRs, GVWRs, nor GCVWR. Where you count hitch weight in the unhitched condition isn't as important, since that weight will be shared across multiple axles once the WDH is engaged.
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