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Old 09-22-2015, 11:23 AM   #11
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If I owned one I wouldn't be too worried about it If they are like the ignition switches on the Cobalts which all haven't been fixed yet, or the air bag actuator replacements .......... we have two vehicles waiting on those...... The diesel vehicles will be wore out before the they are all recalled ....... If you want to dump one real cheap I'll take it .


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Old 09-22-2015, 11:26 AM   #12
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If I owned one I wouldn't be too worried about it If they are like the ignition switches on the Cobalts which all haven't been fixed yet, or the air bag actuator replacements .......... we have two vehicles waiting on those...... The diesel vehicles will be wore out before the they are all recalled ....... If you want to dump one real cheap I'll take it .


My switch was fixed last year.

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Old 09-22-2015, 11:33 AM   #13
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We are still waiting on one at work .............
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:13 PM   #14
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A member here just traded his in for a truck! Good thing he did!
The Touareg is not included in this because it has the DEF system, it is the smaller ones that "don't need that emission " that are in the $h!# as it were.
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Old 09-22-2015, 01:02 PM   #15
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I don't think they will all be "fixed". The notifications only go out to the original owner. Once a vehicle has been sold, somehow they lose track of it. I still get notices for a recall on a car I haven't owned for 3 years!!
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Old 09-22-2015, 01:37 PM   #16
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Once a vehicle has been sold, somehow they lose track of it. I still get notices for a recall on a car I haven't owned for 3 years!!
Not strictly true... I called GM about a used car I bought and I've gotten two recall notices about it automatically now. I took the trouble because it still had some factory warranty but they'll probably change the database if you call and ask.
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Not strictly true... I called GM about a used car I bought and I've gotten two recall notices about it automatically now. I took the trouble because it still had some factory warranty but they'll probably change the database if you call and ask.
I guess it depends whose on the other end of the phone. I was concerned about the recall as it was a safety issue, (steering / handling). I too called GM gave them the info on when it was sold and to whom, (traded it into a dealer). And my vehicle was out of warranty. But I still get recall notices. Oh well.....
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I own a 2013 VW Jetta TDI and I'm not worried at all. VW made big mistake and it will end up costing them 1 or 2 billion dollars to fix it, but it will be fixed. If not, there could be another historic "buy back" (like Dodge Ram trucks) of all the VW TDI vehicles in question.

The Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board are now going to inspect all other diesel powered vehicles sold in this country to see if their highway emissions are correct. Diesel-powered light truck owners may also have emissions problems.
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Back to the original topic...

Surfing around, it looks like this was a software cheat with no mechanical way (don't know how you'd do that... a switch to detect a probe up the tailpipe?... too obvious) used of detecting when emissions testing was happening. In that case the ECC must have been programmed to go to clean-mode when a scantool was plugged into the OBDII port. Since it was stationary in the shop when this would happen, the engine probably lost considerable performance but the owner wouldn't have noticed because the engine wasn't being pushed in any way. They probably couldn't find any other way to a) have it get out of its own way, b) get 1000 miles per tank and c) pass regulations.

Not so high and mighty now for the pundits who said the Americans couldn't figure out how to meet small diesel emissions while VW could.

The recall fix should be pretty easy in the ECC code but customers are going to lose out in a) and b) - thus the class-action suits are already flying.

Some heads are going to roll in engineering over this one. If I were the CEO I'd put out a broadcast email that said they'd try to advocate for no prison time for the first person (and only the first) to name names. Once you have two links in the chain, the witch hunt should be pretty easy.
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The Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board are now going to inspect all other diesel powered vehicles sold in this country to see if their highway emissions are correct. Diesel-powered light truck owners may also have emissions problems.
VW is already said to have set aside over 9 billion dollars to deal with fixing the cars and that doesn't include the up to $18 billion in penalties they could be subject to just in the U.S.

Probably not the owners so much as the manufacturers. That's why Mercedes, Audi and Renault stocks have taken a hit too.
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