Yikes! Hope you don't plan on selling that diesel VW TV!

[Iwannacamp]

Some states...Arkansas doesn't have inspections....or for now. I don't know how they would test for emissions.


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[Oaklevel]

Originally Posted by Iwannacamp

Some states...Arkansas doesn't have inspections....or for now. I don't know how they would test for emissions.


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You are right it depends on your area, We do not have emissions testing as yet in SW Virginia Northern Virginia is a different story...........

[OldCoot]

Originally Posted by Steelhorzz

I don't think they will all be "fixed". The notifications only go out to the original owner. Once a vehicle has been sold, somehow they lose track of it. I still get notices for a recall on a car I haven't owned for 3 years!!

Not true, son has an 02 Cad Deville that he is the 3rd owner and he got a notice of an ignition switch problem and it was fixed for free.

[mchauvet]

The county where I live does not have diesel emissions inspections, but this VW diesel emissions scandal may change that. The EPA is involved now.

[frugalbk]

Originally Posted by MarsMan

Impressive and creative- software to sense when an emission test is being done and kick in pollution control. Imagine what could be engineered if this creativity was channeled for the "good". hahhaha

You get the ACA website debacle!

[spock123]

I think what they did was make the emissions better and fuel mileage get better. In other words cheat. If I took all the emissions off my truck I would get better fuel mileage, I think I might help it out some after the warranty runs out on the truck. North Carolina does not do emissions checks in my county.


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[CWSWine]

This my extend past just VW and affect the trucks that some of us drive. Maybe the gas guys will get the last laugh on the diesel folks and that including me.
I qoute;
"Gina McCarthy, administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, which helped expose the scandal, warned on Tuesday that the scandal might eventually extend to other U.S. and European manufacturers of diesel-engine cars and trucks. “We have to be concerned about whether or not there are other defeat devices out there that we have not been able to detect,” McCarthy said during an energy and climate policy breakfast hosted by The Wall Street Journal and the National Association of Manufacturers."

[spock123]

Originally Posted by CWSWine

This my extend past just VW and affect the trucks that some of us drive. Maybe the gas guys will get the last laugh on the diesel folks and that including me.
I qoute;
"Gina McCarthy, administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, which helped expose the scandal, warned on Tuesday that the scandal might eventually extend to other U.S. and European manufacturers of diesel-engine cars and trucks. “We have to be concerned about whether or not there are other defeat devices out there that we have not been able to detect,” McCarthy said during an energy and climate policy breakfast hosted by The Wall Street Journal and the National Association of Manufacturers."

I agree, I think Ram 1500 with Diesel engines may be one. But I would not put it past GM to do the same thing.


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[B and B]

Amazing in this day and age many States have no emissions testing yet California has had severe limitation since the 70's. Just doesn't seem right. Remember you truck or VW smog travels to where I live in Southern Ontario! We have had drive clean for many years and stopped burning coal for electricity, the little that we did, several years ago.

[mchauvet]

There are going to be some diesel powered light duty trucks where there owners might have to remove their "tuners" and restore original ECM firmware. Diesel powered vehicles are going to be watched closely from now on.

[mchauvet]

Not too long ago emission testing was done with the drive wheels turning on a dynamometer at 40 to 60 MPH. Emission samples were taken at highway speeds.

[CWSWine]

VW figured out how to detect when the emission test equipment was installed and adjusted emissions so they it would pass. In this case it didn't matter if the state had testing or not, they were even passing in California. Now the question is were the big three US makers doing the same thing. I won't put it pass any of them the way the running of the numbers in the last few years!

[mchauvet]

I guess what I meant to say is that the EPA and CARB should have done initial testing at idle AND highway speeds.

[spock123]

Originally Posted by mchauvet

There are going to be some diesel powered light duty trucks where there owners might have to remove their "tuners" and restore original ECM firmware. Diesel powered vehicles are going to be watched closely from now on.

Most people that have the tuners installed will just remove them before they take them in for the inspections. I wonder about the trucks that are "rolling coal". That is a lot of smoke. I wonder what the smoke would look like pulling a fifth wheel


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[mchauvet]

Originally Posted by spock123

Most people that have the tuners installed will just remove them before they take them in for the inspections.

True, unless there is a hardware fix...

[spock123]

Originally Posted by mchauvet

True, unless there is a hardware fix...

Then someone else will make the payments, I own my truck


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[Timmy Jim]

The pollutant is Nitrous oxide (NOX), which in a diesel engine when the particulate emissions are reduced, tend to go up. There are several other auto manufacturers that are even worse than VW. They shouldn't have tried to cheat around the issue though. If you have a Diesel pusher motor home, some states require you to put an additive in your fuel tank to curb NOX, which I have been told can get a little expensive, and is one of the reasons we went with a gas engine in ours (at least to begin with).

[Happy Vibe]

I don't believe this will effect engines that run DEF. VW did not want to put DEF on there 2.0 engine, they saved 200 million by not having to install it(according to the article I read). In the same article it said the writer had talked to a Honda engineer and they could not figure out how VW could get the engine to pass the emissions without DEF.

[madmaxmutt]

Add the SUVs and a Porsche to the list.

Volkswagen emission cheating scandal spreads to Porsche - Nov. 2, 2015

[Skyliner]

Who cares about this issue. Most owners of diesels get tunes to disable the majority of that bogus emissions crap anyway. How many posting in this thread actually own diesels?