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09-12-2015, 06:50 PM
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After our 400 miles shake down trip this week, I'm going to contact the dealer about getting an alignment. Noted in PDI that it pulls to the left and it still does loaded. Steering does have a little wandering and needs too much correction. Dealer will get the authorization and send me to a local front end truck shop.
Benagi, did you ever get yours aligned?
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2016 Forester 2701DS (Aug 31, 2015)
2017 Camping 12 trips 38 nights
2018 Camping 10 trips 38 nights
2019 Camping 6 trips 19 nights
2020 Camping 0 trips Cancellations 6
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09-13-2015, 07:09 AM
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newRVer
Just wondering. If an alignment makes that much difference in the drivability why doesn't FR just complete an alignment as part of their modifications before delivery?
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LOL !!!
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09-13-2015, 11:16 AM
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The stability can be improved with a significant caster increase during alignment but it can't solve the poor responsiveness of Ford's steering.
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09-14-2015, 12:44 AM
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Sage, not aligned yet. Just got back from a camping trip with wind and trucks coming at me on a two lane highway and it actually handled pretty good. It drives straight no problem, just feels a little loose which I have gotten use to. May do an alignment down the road.
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09-14-2015, 01:15 AM
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Ben, too much weight in rear? It can cause front wheels to not have enough weight and loose steering. I have to be careful too, I had mine weighed loaded and I'm fine for now. Remember water tank is back there weighing 400 lbs plus the cargo cabinets loaded with gear.
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2004 Winnebago Minnie 22e(went to a nice family Oct 3, 2015)
2016 Forester 2701DS (Aug 31, 2015)
2017 Camping 12 trips 38 nights
2018 Camping 10 trips 38 nights
2019 Camping 6 trips 19 nights
2020 Camping 0 trips Cancellations 6
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09-14-2015, 07:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagecoachdriver
Ben, too much weight in rear? It can cause front wheels to not have enough weight and loose steering. I have to be careful too, I had mine weighed loaded and I'm fine for now. Remember water tank is back there weighing 400 lbs plus the cargo cabinets loaded with gear.
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WOW,,, 400 lbs,,, how much water does your unit hold ???
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09-14-2015, 07:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
WOW,,, 400 lbs,,, how much water does your unit hold ???
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Water weighs about 8.33 lbs per gallon.
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09-14-2015, 07:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldgold
Water weighs about 8.33 lbs per gallon.
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OK,,, so our Sunseeker holds 30 gallons,,, X 8 is about 240 LBS !!!
Maybe he meant all his tanks ???
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09-14-2015, 07:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolverine 1945
OK,,, so our Sunseeker holds 30 gallons,,, X 8 is about 240 LBS !!!
Maybe he meant all his tanks ???
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Our TTTH holds 92 gallons of fresh water and 30 gallons of gas for the toys. It gets really heavy, really quick.
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09-14-2015, 07:49 AM
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i have a 2010 sunseeker 3100ss. what air bags?? i neverheard of them on a e450? how can i find out?
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09-14-2015, 07:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldgold
Our TTTH holds 92 gallons of fresh water and 30 gallons of gas for the toys. It gets really heavy, really quick.
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WOW,,, that is a lot of LBS !!!
Is your Ranch King a Doodle !!!
LOL !!!
Sounds like you need an F-350 !!!
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09-14-2015, 08:42 AM
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My Forester and Ben's hold 50 gallons of fresh water at 8 lbs per gallon equals 400 lbs. It's all at the back end beyond the rear axle.
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2016 Forester 2701DS (Aug 31, 2015)
2017 Camping 12 trips 38 nights
2018 Camping 10 trips 38 nights
2019 Camping 6 trips 19 nights
2020 Camping 0 trips Cancellations 6
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09-14-2015, 09:54 AM
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The rear air bags come as standard equipment now. Your 2010 and my 2011 did not but they can be installed. I believe they are Firestone ride rite air bags .
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09-14-2015, 01:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jk31668
i have a 2010 sunseeker 3100ss. what air bags?? i neverheard of them on a e450? how can i find out?
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They were standard on a 2003 E450 I had awhile back. Schrader valves were mounted in the running boards for air adjusting.
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09-14-2015, 04:44 PM
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I did the cheap fix and adjusted the stabilizer to the other holes. Worked great night and day difference, I could not imagine driving through the flatlands with out doing it.
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09-17-2015, 07:30 PM
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#56
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If you travel with bikes, moving more weight to the front by installing a front hitch and mounting them there will also make a difference in handling. Amazon has bolt on front hitches for a couple hundred bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Draw-Tite-6505...Hitch+Receiver
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09-18-2015, 12:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr27davis
I did the cheap fix and adjusted the stabilizer to the other holes. Worked great night and day difference, I could not imagine driving through the flatlands with out doing it.
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FR, what is your rig? Could you elaborate on your cheap fix? Thx
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09-18-2015, 08:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagecoachdriver
My Forester and Ben's hold 50 gallons of fresh water at 8 lbs per gallon equals 400 lbs. It's all at the back end beyond the rear axle.
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50 gallons,,, that is a lot of water !!!
I think our Sunseeker holds 30 gallons !!!
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09-18-2015, 09:02 AM
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I just rechecked my Forester brochure and found "W W/H. So it's really only 44 gallons back in the fresh water tank. The 6 gallons in the water heater is in the middle of the coach. 352 lbs back there bouncing along!
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2016 Forester 2701DS (Aug 31, 2015)
2017 Camping 12 trips 38 nights
2018 Camping 10 trips 38 nights
2019 Camping 6 trips 19 nights
2020 Camping 0 trips Cancellations 6
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09-18-2015, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagecoachdriver
I just rechecked my Forester brochure and found "W W/H. So it's really only 44 gallons back in the fresh water tank. The 6 gallons in the water heater is in the middle of the coach. 352 lbs back there bouncing along!
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I sure don't think I would keep that full,,, if I did not need it ???
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