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Old 02-01-2016, 05:40 PM   #11
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Congradulations on the new 3011DS.

Wife and I have been looking at this floor plan and reading allot about CCC on class Cs.

Can you provide info on CCC for the 3011DS.
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:44 PM   #12
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Joshua, previous to owning my Forester I had an Arctic Fox Travel trailer. In the bedroom there was a swing out egress window like the one in the Forester. However, it had a screen and a control arm at the bottom. The arm folded back along the base of the window and fit into a slot that held the window shut. When you unhooked the control arm you could push the bottom of the window out. The control arm had an indention that held the window in this open position OR it could simply be moved past the indention to allow the window to swing open fully. The screen had a couple of tabs that make it easy to remove and then the window was fully operational as an egress window.

Here's the best photo I could find as an example of this type of window. It shows the control arm folded back in the locked position:
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Old 02-02-2016, 08:25 AM   #13
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Don't kill me, I'm the messenger. ha
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:41 AM   #14
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No, please, never think we're going after you. You're doing great. I was just showing an example of an egress window that has a screen and is useful for both ventilation and exit.

I fully realize that FR is limited by what's available and what works with the rest of the design.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:45 PM   #15
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Yep we have the same lousy window. It needs:

Dual Panes
Reflective coating
Better fitment
Opening feature with screen

I'm sure Forest River knows all of this - but just figures the units are selling just fine with this lousy window on the back of all the units.

Here's how ours looks 90% of the time - such a shame on such a nice RV:
Hey Creativepart, we have the same designer! I know, it looks so cheap and we have them cutout for all the windows for winter trips to Yosemite.
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:25 AM   #16
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I'll see what we can do. This is something that we bring up periodically and have been getting the same answers.
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Old 02-03-2016, 09:07 AM   #17
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You can't do a screened rear egress window on a motorhome. It is a code violation.

If we design a window that is meant to be opened and you leave it open and then drive away, a back draft is created and you can bring in exhaust gases.

Trailers, no problem. Those are not designed to ride in during transit. While I can't comment on all the other issues...the whole "why doesn't FR just put a nice screened egress window like my trailer" comment doesn't really apply.
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Old 02-03-2016, 09:37 AM   #18
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Makes perfect sense. I see that problem differently now. Thanks so much for the explanation.

I understand how exhaust gas would enter if a window was left open - and not to argue the point, honest - but the exhaust exits from the side of the RV near the tires not the back of the RV. But I'd guess the code is still written as it is for good reason.

Something needs down to lessen the heat/cold in the bedroom due to that large window. Because it's a sizable problem. Something better looking than my solution, that's for sure.
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Exhaust exits out the side...but when driving, there is a reverse air affect. If you look at a unit driven through dusty roads, the back of the unit gets covered in filth as the air curls around and throws everything on the back side of the unit.
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This is the best video I could find explaining the vortex Cause I love visual explanations...and cool terms like "low pressure vortex"

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