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Old 04-30-2018, 05:10 PM   #1
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We have a 2014 forester 3011ds and I want to ask if anyone know if this class c will handle a 50 amp plug, it's 30 amp but we keep throwing the electric a d I was going to get an adapter to convert the 30 amp to 50
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We have a 2014 forester 3011ds and I want to ask if anyone know if this class c will handle a 50 amp plug, it's 30 amp but we keep throwing the electric a d I was going to get an adapter to convert the 30 amp to 50
You would need to replace all wiring from the plug to the panel and probably replace the panel too. You cannot just make (probably cannot buy) a 50 to 30 amp adapter without overloading your power cord and wiring and panel. The wiring from the plug thru the panel is designed for 30 amps.
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Old 04-30-2018, 05:16 PM   #3
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You can certainly use a dog bone to plug your 30 Amp service into a 50 Amp shore power pedestal.

Now with that said, you still only have a 30 amp coach. So your main breaker is 30 Amp and will trip if you draw over that load rating for any length of time.

So what does “throwing the electric” mean? and I would be very concerned as to the causal factor. More power is not the answer.

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This "Throwing the electric" I assume you are tripping the breaker. Is it the pedestal breaker or you 30 amp main in your coachr? We need to know what you are using when this "Throwing" takes place. If you think you need 50 amps you will need to replace your electric panel and the shore power cord to 50 amps. Big $$$$ and work. What are you using when this throwing occurs.
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If you are tripping the breaker at the CG...and specifically one CG. My suspicion is bad breaker....unless you might be running a/c, micro, coffee pot, and DW hair dryer?? If that’s the case...turn stuff off till it quits and “learn to conserve”. Ymmv
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Problem is if we have the hot water heater on we can't use the microwave, or like now we can't run an electric heater and hot water heater. Sounds to me like something to just deal with, it's every time we camp, apparently no easy fix
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You can always run water heater on propane during high electric demand.
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We aren't using a lot of stuff at the same time, 2 things at the same time will throw it
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You might be using water heater, microwave, converter charging batteries, fridge on, so it all adds up....and if using air conditioning even worst. Here is a post on normal range amp draw in a typical RV.

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no, you can't magically change your 30a coach to use 50a service, it wasn't built for that... it was built to use 30amp maximum. Your 30a shore cord plugged into a 30a rv outlet is exactly how it should be.

if you are 'tripping' breakers, where ever those breakers might be, whether the shore power main breaker, your coach's main breaker, or individual breakers in your coach, it is because you are demanding too much power by the things you are asking it to power, such as air conditioning while microwaving while also hair drying.... you get the idea.
We all have to watch our power usage, especially as the hot months are approaching.

There are some secrets, though. Use an extension cord(s) and use the 15a/20a outlet that might be right next to your 30amp Rv service outlet at the rv park. This will allow you to bring it into the coach and power some things that would then not be apart of your 'coach's' power needs - fans, computers, satellite receivers, kitchen top appliances, etc.

by the way, if you purchase a 30a to 50a adapter, you'll still only have 30amps of power, it's not going to give you anymore than you already have, but will bring along some problems, such as overloading/burning thru your shore cord.
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If you want our help you need to tells us which breakers or tripping. Not Throwing. Is it the 30 amp main breaker or a 20 or 15 amp smaller breaker. Is it the breaker in your trailer or on the Poer pole?
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Problem is if we have the hot water heater on we can't use the microwave, or like now we can't run an electric heater and hot water heater. Sounds to me like something to just deal with, it's every time we camp, apparently no easy fix
The water heater is on its own circuit. The microwave is on its own circuit. The electric heater would also be a different circuit. So you must be tripping the main 30 amp or the shore power 30 amp. Any two of these things should work together. Since you say "everytime we camp" I have to ASSUME (I hate doing that) you must be tripping the 30 amp main in the coach. Is that correct"
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I don't like to 'assume' either, and I'll agree with the site team that it's easy for us to 'jump in' and start making assumptions, good or bad... but I also think that all of us want to HELP, and help quickly, as the post seems to allude that someone is quite unhappy with their current situation.
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We have a 2014 forester 3011ds and I want to ask if anyone know if this class c will handle a 50 amp plug, it's 30 amp but we keep throwing the electric a d I was going to get an adapter to convert the 30 amp to 50
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Problem is if we have the hot water heater on we can't use the microwave, or like now we can't run an electric heater and hot water heater. Sounds to me like something to just deal with, it's every time we camp, apparently no easy fix
jj48fan:

Take a look at the number of amps each of your appliances uses in this post:

normal appliance amp draws

I notice the list doesn't include a water heater, which is most likely 1440 watts or about 12 amps (if it's a Suburban water heater).

For example, using your 2nd post, your water heater uses 12 amps, your microwave uses 13 amps. You're already at 25 amps. Note that this doesn't include whatever amps your converter is drawing to charge your battery and run any 12VDC stuff you might be using (lights, bathroom fan, etc.). Let's call it another 2 amps, so now you're using 27 amps.

You have a 30 amp breaker in your rig. Even though it's a 30 amp breaker, 27 amps for 5 or 10 minutes may cause it to trip.

If you're using an electric heater, most of them are 1500 watts or about 13 amps.

So you can add up whatever you might want to use at the same time and quickly see the limitations that those of us with 30 amp service have to deal with.

As suggested above, run your water heater on gas, that immediately gives you 12 amps more to play with.

Some folks will use a heavy duty extension cord to operate an electric heater. They plug it into the 15 amp outlet on the campgrounds pedestal and route it into the camper through a slide out or a window or some such place.

Using the 50 amp to 30 amp dogbone won't prevent your rig's 30 amp breaker from tripping. And no, you can't upgrade the entire electrical system to 50 amp without doing a MAJOR rewiring (read "big $$$") of your rig.

Good luck.

UPDATE: Also, campground breakers get a lot of use, and can sometimes become "lazy" and trip early. So if you're pulling close to 30 amps, either the campgrounds 30 amp breaker OR your rigs 30 amp breaker may trip first. Even if they are both in good shape, one of them will trip first and you can't guess which one.
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We aren't using a lot of stuff at the same time, 2 things at the same time will throw it
Welcome to the forums. I am assuming your username is an indication of being a Jimmy Johnson #48 fan.

As others, have explained, you will be limited to what you can use at the same time when connected to a 30 amp outlet. It's a little learning curve. Depending on exactly what 2 things you are running at the same time, it can "trip" a breaker.

We have put together a list of the more common things for new RV owners to learn about at this following link below. The very first link in that thread explains the electrical aspect, and energy management....as that is the first thing that 30 amp RV'ers should need to understand. The next links are about the converter, which is going to also draw 120 volt AC amps depending on what 12 volt DC loads you place on it. Many people don't understand that aspect, and the how it factors in towards your total amp draw leading to circuit breaker overload. Hope that helps:

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Learning to live with with 30 amps was a learning curve for all of us, but it will soon become second nature. I do use a 12 gauge extension cord to power my electric water heater. That helped a lot. Most campground electrical pedestals contain both a 30 amp and a 20 amp outlets. The cord allows you to use both.
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jj48fan, coming from a 50 amp travel trailer to a 30 amp Forester 3011 I needed to learn how to monitor my amperage usage. The best thing I did was purchase a hard wired Progressive Industries Electrical Management System (EMS). Not only does it protect your coach from multiple electrical hazards but also has a display showing how many amps you are drawing. If you exceed 30 amps for more than a minute or two you will typically trip a breaker. Usually it is the one on the pedestal and not the motor home. If I have the AC on, the fridge on electric, and the converter is doing its thing I usually have to wait until the AC cycles to use the microwave or put the fridge on propane. Here is a link to the EMS.

https://www.rvupgradestore.com/Progr...2E5FEDABA4AE67
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Only time I have a pro b Len with all that on is when DW uses the hair drier! Even though that stuff is on, not all are doing a heavy draw all at once.
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