Thanks--I think we are abandoning this prospect--We aren't sure of anything----we haven't seen the motorhome yet because the guy and his wife are traveling the US before returning to Australia--he wants an offer (sight unseen) before he will agree to meet us when he is in our area on his way back to CA to return to Australia. (It's advertised on RV Trader). We were thinking of sending him an approximate offer so he would meet us (contingent on inspection) but when I told him we wanted to test drive it he replied that his insurance won't allow anyone but him to drive it (he was also surprised about the factory warranty being nontransferable)--that was the last straw so since nothing seems to be stacking up I just told him to forget it. I think it was one of those "too good to be true" deals--2015 Forester 2251SLE, 20,000 miles he listed it at $47,500. Since they are heading back to Australia they are leaving all the extras they bought for their trip--storage tubs, bedding, kitchen supplies etc. I think we will keep looking!