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Old 08-23-2015, 10:09 AM   #1
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Diesel vs Gas?

First let me say that I have had three diesel trucks and diesel tractors and know the advantages of diesel- better fuel economy and torque at low rpm.
I am trying to decide if a diesel motor home is cost effective.
It looks like for a comparable floor plan the MB diesel is around $20,000 higher than the Chevy chassis. The closest MB dealer is 100 miles away for service. I assume any Chevy dealer would work on the Chevy and their are three within 20 miles of me. I also assume that both labor rates and parts are going to be way higher for the MB. Also if I break down while traveling it maybe hard to find service.
It also appears that the Chevy will tow 800 lbs more and has 1/2" thicker walls for more insulation.
The MB will get better fuel mileage, lets say 15mpg vs 9mpg for the Chevy for the sake of this discussion. Currently where I live, diesel and gas are about the same price but since 2004 diesel has been 30 to 40 cents higher. The short term outlook shows diesel higher than gas next year by 40 cents. If I drive 5000 miles per year
MB: 333 gallons
Chevy: 555 gallons. So 222 gals extra at lets say $3.00 gallon is $667 year extra in fuel for the gasser.This doesn't account for the fact that if diesel is higher by its usual amount this would reduce this amount by about $120. Now we are at $550 per year
At this rate it will take me 30+ years to break even on the diesel- and this doesn't count DEF consumption, more expensive maintenance and more expensive parts and service.

Now for the diesel I get better low end torque which means on my trips in the hills and mountains the MH downshifts less and is more relaxing to drive.
I do plan on towing a small trailer with a Can Am Maverick on it so I suspect the MB will do better here as well

BTW I did not include the Ford as an option because I don't want the twin I beam suspension. I have had it on three trucks and they ride rough and handle lousy. Also the Chevy gets better fuel economy than the Ford gasser

What are your thoughts? If you went with a diesel, why? if you went with a gasser why? Thanks
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:29 AM   #2
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It sounds like the two vehicles you are considering are pretty far apart on options and potentially quality.The Diesel option should only increase the cost of a vehicle by $4-6k over the gas counterpart.
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:33 AM   #3
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Think about how many miles are ya gonna drive ? Twenty five or thirty thousand a year and the diesel is better , any less buy the one ya like . Also , if ya ain't gonna pull a trailer a lot , it is no advantage !
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I though you can get a GM bodied C class with the Duramax? If that is in the options, go for that. Solves all your problems!
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:46 AM   #5
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I though you can get a GM bodied C class with the Duramax? If that is in the options, go for that. Solves all your problems!
I have not seen any manufacturer put the Duramax into a Class C. If they did I would consider it. I think they quit making that chassis/engine combo a few years ago

I see an International in the Nexus and Dynamax and Seneca with a Cummins
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Old 08-23-2015, 10:48 AM   #6
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It sounds like the two vehicles you are considering are pretty far apart on options and potentially quality.The Diesel option should only increase the cost of a vehicle by $4-6k over the gas counterpart.
+2 on this, your not in the same league and for the extra 20, if I have it, I am spending it on the MB.

As for money back, you will get it back when you sell it, at least where I live. Similar equipped MH with gas are selling used for 20k plus less for gas compared to a Diesel.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:00 AM   #7
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+2 on this, your not in the same league and for the extra 20, if I have it, I am spending it on the MB.

As for money back, you will get it back when you sell it, at least where I live. Similar equipped MH with gas are selling used for 20k plus less for gas compared to a Diesel.
Both Foresters and same quality as far as I know. The Chevy has thicker walls and therefore more insulation, also bigger genny.

Couldnt find many prices for the Chevy but
MBS 2401W $116000 List
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2501TS Chevy $87476 list

If the gasser costs $20k less up front its gonna sell for less later
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I have not seen any manufacturer put the Duramax into a Class C. If they did I would consider it. I think they quit making that chassis/engine combo a few years ago

I see an International in the Nexus and Dynamax and Seneca with a Cummins
Maybe a Super C or a C+ chassis. I have found a few in th past but didn't see what year they were. I'm a big Duramax fan. The Duramax/Allison combo is worth the extra $ for sure if you can find one.
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I did the same math. Kinda like the MBS smaller size and similar floor plan but price difference was too much. Like mentioned, about 30 yrs to payback difference. So I went with Ford! Less than 8 MPG in first 10000 miles and enjoying every trip!

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Big question is can you justify the cost of the diesel over the gas in the long run. How long will you keep the unit and how many miles a year do you plan to drive? Later RJD
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