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Old 07-25-2016, 10:51 AM   #51
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No, only since the beginning of the year or so. Verizon won't issue any new unlimited lines for personal use, but there is quite the aftermarket of people selling/buying them. It's a very steep up-front fee ($400-1,500) one-time and after that, you have a less expensive monthly cost directly from Verizon.

The alternative is to find someone who is leasing their account and rent from them. This has a much lower start-up cost ($0-200) but a higher monthly cost ($120-200).
I can see that is a good alternative for you needing internet for work. I'm not sure it would be worth it for us just for video streaming, but after we've been on the road a while, we may change our minds. I appreciate you explaining the plans and providing these options.
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Old 07-25-2016, 11:31 AM   #52
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Unless something has changed the "off brand" services (Straightalk, Consumer, Republic, etc.), are compatible with either Verizon/Sprint or AT&T/T-Mobile, but not both. ATT and T-Mobile use the GSM protocol while the others use the older TDMA (or CDMA) technology. GSM is a worldwide standard so it's rare to get a Verizon linked phone to work outside of North America.

So, Straightalk is probably using ATT and T-Mobile towers since it works where Verizon didn't. Coverage at my home is almost non existent with either network. I had an ATT M-Cell installed but since wifi calling became available I usually use that now.
A bit of clarification...

StaightTalk provides connection to either CDMA or GSM networks, depending on which SIM/provider is chosen. I have a Moto X Pure which has both CDMA and GSM radios so when I purchased a StraightTalk SIM for it, I was able to choose. My previous phone was GSM only and ATT service was a bit spotty at home so I opted for the CDMA/Verizon SIM and service has been a bit better at home.

So, depending on which SIM is purchased will determine which towers/system is used.
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:16 PM   #53
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This thread got me thinking about alternatives to the ATT plans. Maybe someone here has some info about T-Mobile.

I just talked to them and explained I wanted to set up one of my spare iPhones as a hot spot, meaning data only, no talk or text. Using that hotspot I will connect the Amazon Fire and the Apple TV to the phone to view streaming video on the big screen TV. they said I could get the six gig data only plan for $30 a month and it would include additional unlimited streaming for the apps on the devices. The basic six gigs LTE would be used for emails, web browsing, etc., and it rolls over unused data up to a 20 gig cap.

Plus, the plan can be turned on and off as needed--no contracts. Anyone have experience with that system and plan?
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:24 PM   #54
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A tablet actually has its own phone number and uses the data plan from a cell provider.
Sherman, since tablets came out, I've wondered why I can't use one as a phone. Can you let me know what tablet, and what provider, you use that the tablet has a phone number, and how it uses a cell signal? I was under the impression tablets only functioned with wifi...........

EDIT: Sherm, never mind. Google is my friend. I found a couple that work via LTE (Gen 4 cell network).....(But for data only, no phone).

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Sherman, since tablets came out, I've wondered why I can't use one as a phone. Can you let me know what tablet, and what provider, you use that the tablet has a phone number, and how it uses a cell signal? I was under the impression tablets only functioned with wifi...........

EDIT: Sherm, never mind. Google is my friend. I found a couple that work via LTE (Gen 4 cell network).....(But for data only, no phone).

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Your edit is what I had. Our initial iPad purchase had cellular data support and could be added to my phone plan directly. We never did it, though.

That said, you could definitely use a VoIP solution on a data-only device.
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Yeah, and I guess you could Skype (or whatever) with a wifi tablet connection.....also. Or VoIP or just internet voice. But not sure any of them use the cell network for voice connections in the traditional sense. However, I didn't even know they now used the cell network directly for data, so I'm obviously way behind the times.
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Kyfan, see if this helps:
Learn To RV: Mobile Internet on the Road

Longest story shortest: I use AT&T and a 15gb plan for 3 iPhones and an idle hotspot (I use this one as a backup) @ $235/month (though 2 phones are on the NEXT payment plan). I also use a Verizon Jetpack hotspot on an unlimited data plan (I use this one as my primary) @ $70/month. The hotspots are connected to my WifiRanger and all of my devices connect to that (more info).

We use this for our Internet needs when stationary and traveling down the road. When stationary, we often stream video content from Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime/Youtube. When mobile, my son will occasionally watch shows online. Of course, this is all dependent on the speed of service- often times, it is fast enough for streaming video, but there have been quite a few times where it wasn't.

I've found places where I have had better/faster AT&T coverage vs. Verizon and vice versa. I've found places where neither worked. A cellular booster can be very helpful with all of this. I'm sensitive to Internet speeds as I need Internet for work at my 9-5 job.
Warning---thread drift.

Curious about the WiFi Ranger. My current setup is a Netgear router mounted in a cabinet in the front bedroom. It has no internet connection and is used solely to create a wifi setup that allows me to view the rear camera on my iPhone or iPad (sometimes both at once). I use the Sharx security camera because it has the highest resolution on any "backup" camera, at least the affordable ones, and it allows viewing with any phone or laptop. The built in six hour recording function is a bonus.

The question is would the WiFi Ranger, in addition to its normal functions, see the camera and allow the phone/tablet to connect to it?
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Curious about the WiFi Ranger. My current setup is a Netgear router mounted in a cabinet in the front bedroom. It has no internet connection and is used solely to create a wifi setup that allows me to view the rear camera on my iPhone or iPad (sometimes both at once). I use the Sharx security camera because it has the highest resolution on any "backup" camera, at least the affordable ones, and it allows viewing with any phone or laptop. The built in six hour recording function is a bonus.



The question is would the WiFi Ranger, in addition to its normal functions, see the camera and allow the phone/tablet to connect to it?


Yep. I use my WifiRanger as the backbone of my network. I have a variety of devices connected to it and don't always have internet serving it (I have a media server/wifi hard drive that I ripped my dvd library to).
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they said I could get the six gig data only plan for $30 a month and it would include additional unlimited streaming for the apps on the devices.
Read the FINE PRINT.

To ensure that we’re providing a great experience for our customers, customers who use more than 26GB of data in a bill cycle will have their data usage de-prioritized compared to other customers for that bill cycle at times and locations when competing network demands occur, resulting in relatively slower speeds see t-mobile.com/OpenInternet for details



You are purchasing a 6 gig high speed data plan On the T-mobile network after the 6 gigs, your speed is limited and will be acceptable for viewing web pages but not for streaming video.

We have been with T-Mobile for 15 years and have learned all their tricks over that time.

I had a chance to add a "FREE" tablet for "$10" a month...

Sounds too good to be true, doesn't it? It was

How it worked was, you got the tablet, paid about $35 activation fee. then paid about $20 a month for the tablet, and another $10 a month plus all kinds of "FINE PRINT" fees for the service for the "NEXT TWO YEARS". Each month you would receive a credit of $20 a month for the cost of the tablet. Cancel early, meant all kinds of early termination fees and the loss of all those $20 credits.

All of the carriers try and entice you with " FREEBIES"

nothing in this world is free!!!

Go to this page, click on tablets, and then read the user agreement conditions and the print at the bottom of the page...now remember a 2 hour movie uses 6 gig

Mobile Broadband Unlimited Data Plans w/ No Annual Contract | T-Mobile

Do we plan on leaving T-mobile,,,NO,we have a great grandfathered family plan that includes 6 gig high speed with unlimited restricted speed data on the T-mobile network. We get 50 meg roaming data.

Murelene pays $137 per month total bill which includes payments for 2 -LG G4 phones.

If you can find a carrier that offers unlimited high speed roaming data. Please let the world know.
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Read the FINE PRINT.

To ensure that we’re providing a great experience for our customers, customers who use more than 26GB of data in a bill cycle will have their data usage de-prioritized compared to other customers for that bill cycle at times and locations when competing network demands occur, resulting in relatively slower speeds see t-mobile.com/OpenInternet for details



You are purchasing a 6 gig high speed data plan On the T-mobile network after the 6 gigs, your speed is limited and will be acceptable for viewing web pages but not for streaming video.

We have been with T-Mobile for 15 years and have learned all their tricks over that time.

I had a chance to add a "FREE" tablet for "$10" a month...

Sounds too good to be true, doesn't it? It was

How it worked was, you got the tablet, paid about $35 activation fee. then paid about $20 a month for the tablet, and another $10 a month plus all kinds of "FINE PRINT" fees for the service for the "NEXT TWO YEARS". Each month you would receive a credit of $20 a month for the cost of the tablet. Cancel early, meant all kinds of early termination fees and the loss of all those $20 credits.

All of the carriers try and entice you with " FREEBIES"

nothing in this world is free!!!

Go to this page, click on tablets, and then read the user agreement conditions and the print at the bottom of the page...now remember a 2 hour movie uses 6 gig

Mobile Broadband Unlimited Data Plans w/ No Annual Contract | T-Mobile

Do we plan on leaving T-mobile,,,NO,we have a great grandfathered family plan that includes 6 gig high speed with unlimited restricted speed data on the T-mobile network. We get 50 meg roaming data.

Murelene pays $137 per month total bill which includes payments for 2 -LG G4 phones.

If you can find a carrier that offers unlimited high speed roaming data. Please let the world know.
I'm not interested in any tablet plans. If I want/need data on my iPads I use the hotspot features of the iPhone.

T-Mobile explained to me that streaming Netfliz or Amazon prime would not count against the six gig data but other uses of the data features (i.e., downloading movies or gigantic files) would be slowed once the six gig limit was reached. I'll check on the 26 gig thing.
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