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Old 04-28-2013, 03:31 PM   #1
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Main TV on a 3011DS.

I'm the proud new owner of a 3011 DS. It's our first MH after years in a 5th wheel.

I'm rigging it up for our first trip and I'm having a problem with the main TV in the living area. I need to be able to rig up the Wingard Carryout satellite but the way things are configured makes it very difficult if not impossible. The easy way would be to bring the satellite feed in to the back of the selector box but Forester, in their wisdom, built the box in to it's own little compartment under the the TV. When I say built in I mean built in. There is no way to get the box out to gain access to the back without breaking or dismantling the box. I could wire it straight to the HDMI slot on the TV but to do that I have to remove the TV from the wall. It seems to be mounted on a fixed bracket but there is only 1" of space around the TV. Not nearly enough to get your hand in there to unlock the latch that holds the TV in place in the bracket. I've pulled, jiggled and twisted but nothing seems to work so it's not on any sort of "arm" like the exterior TV.

This has to be problem that others have encountered and hopefully solved. I'd be grateful for any help or suggestions. How do you get the TV off the wall without ripping stuff apart.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:16 PM   #2
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I'm the proud new owner of a 3011 DS. It's our first MH after years in a 5th wheel.

I'm rigging it up for our first trip and I'm having a problem with the main TV in the living area. I need to be able to rig up the Wingard Carryout satellite but the way things are configured makes it very difficult if not impossible. The easy way would be to bring the satellite feed in to the back of the selector box but Forester, in their wisdom, built the box in to it's own little compartment under the the TV. When I say built in I mean built in. There is no way to get the box out to gain access to the back without breaking or dismantling the box. I could wire it straight to the HDMI slot on the TV but to do that I have to remove the TV from the wall. It seems to be mounted on a fixed bracket but there is only 1" of space around the TV. Not nearly enough to get your hand in there to unlock the latch that holds the TV in place in the bracket. I've pulled, jiggled and twisted but nothing seems to work so it's not on any sort of "arm" like the exterior TV.

This has to be problem that others have encountered and hopefully solved. I'd be grateful for any help or suggestions. How do you get the TV off the wall without ripping stuff apart.
I've seen pics of this model for sale with the tv removed. Looks like eye hook type mount to me. Should just lift up and then out. That is my guess.

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Old 04-28-2013, 07:37 PM   #3
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Nope, that won't work, tried it.

I did a search before I posted the query and found that many people had the same problem but there is such a variety of mounts used, they seem to change every few months, that most of the answers were of little use.

I did reach up both sides from the bottom and could just barely touch what felt like 2 rubber covered screw type nuts on what might be threaded legs braced against the wall. I think that their purpose might be to stop the TV from rattling going down the road. Unfortunately, it's physically impossible to get my hand far enough up the back of the TV to turn them. I'm just going to have to leave the TV on the wall and think of something else.

As an engineer I can say this without fear of rebuttal but whoever designed this horrible piece of crap should be taken out and shot or at least forced to mount and remove the TV 10 times a day for the rest of his life. I have never seen anything so unworkable in my life. It's obvious that whoever designed this never had to use it.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:07 AM   #4
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The TV does in fact lift up and off. The rubber feet keep the TV from bouncing, which is also what is keeping it from sliding up and out of the bracket. I'll go see if I can get a picture of one today.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:08 PM   #5
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Thank you. I was hoping that you'd come on and reply. A picture would be great. I'll be able to see what I'm supposed to be looking at. Maybe my wife can get her hand far enough up the back to back-off those feet but I sure as heck can't and I'm sure that many, many other people can't either.

I appreciate what Forest River is trying to do, stop the rattling and secure the TV, but maybe it's time for a rethink. Nothing should be made this difficult.
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In years past, 90% of the buyers never planned on doing anything more with their TV's. Plus the comment is always "You're camping, why do you need a TV?". So there has not been a ton of effort to make them easy to work on...main focus has been "stay where we put you, don't rattle and don't fly away"

As an avid college football fan and A/V nut, I understand your frustration. When I first went to HD my wife was like "what's the big deal, I don't notice any difference". me "What? are you blind?".

Soooo, we're working on making them easier to access, but the RV supply side is also way behind the times in HD technology and support hardware.
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Here is a shot of the H-bracket.

There are nylon feet that mount to the TV, which in turn slide into these (4) holes. In the 2nd picture, you can see how the back is machined. There is a slight ridge (to keep the TV from hopping back out) so you sort of need to "bump" the TV up and past that ridge. Then it will slide up freely.

Wiring directly into the TV will get you the best picture. You can always run out a 2nd connection into the switch box, but then it converts the signal to analog
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:06 AM   #8
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Thank you sir. Now I can see what I should be looking at and doing.

It's not that I mean to be totally negative but as a retired lifelong engineer when you run into something like this your natural instinct is to say, "OK, this isn't working too well, how can we make it better?".

Actually today, my wife with her smaller hands managed to get her hand up the back of the TV and insert the HDMI cable in one of the slots after about a dozen attempts. So, in effect, I really don't need to take the TV off the wall but you know how that goes, it's still going to come off. It's a guy thing. but I'll need female help. I'll have to get her to back off those rubber feet so I can get enough wiggle room to get it off.

Can't get in to the switch box as it's totally enclosed and can't be removed without physically breaking apart the small cabinet that contains it and I don't want to start doing that on a brand new MH. I'll maybe save that one for later.

Once again, thank you for your help. It's been invaluable.
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I have worked in a bunch of AV equipment in enclosed cabinetry before. I'll check out my 3010 and see if i can get a solution or access to the rear.

They way FR does this tying stuff into the radio, long term this will need to get modified probably with AC Tv's, different electronics.
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Same trouble

To the fact. Rep., I have about the same problem with my 2013 3011DS, I tried to connect my satellite in the main cable line and nothing is working. Do I have to made a special connection, I don't want to run an other cable, there surely is something to do ??? Thanks.
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