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Old 11-26-2012, 09:10 PM   #1
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Moving From Class A to Forester

We presently own a Tiffin Class A and are looking to move into a Forester Class C for a lot of reasons. We're also considering the Jayco Greyhawk, but leaning more toward the Forester. I'm looking for any opinions, good and bad of this motorhome. Every brand has it's downfalls and I'd love to hear them all. We've had trailers, a fifth wheel and a motorhome and each has it's issues. I'm curious as to the quality and longivity of the fiberglass roof, wall and floor construction. How well are they holding up in real world conditions. How well are the cabinets and furniture holding up? How has forest river been to deal with on warranty work? I'm open to any opinions, good and bad of these units. We're specifically looking at the 3121 and 3011 at this time.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:43 PM   #2
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Have Sunseeker 3120 which is the same layout as the Forester 3121. Only significant warranty issue was front end alignment. No problem just took it to the shop of my choice, sent Forest River the bill, and they reimbursed me. Couple other small issues (plumbing, missing fuse, and premature tail light bulb failures) that they would have corrected but it wasn't worth my time and gas to get it to a dealer so I fixed them myself. I have been told by numerous people in the industry that Forest River is one of the best when it comes to warranty support, often after if it has expired.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:19 PM   #3
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Thanks ATVer. I expect small things and those don't really bother me. Most things I can macgyver myself, except for major structural things such as walls, roof and floors. As long as FR stands behind their product, I'm good. Tiffin is famous for that, I've experienced it first hand, and I'm hoping to get the fuzzy feeling from FR. Coming from the top heavy ride of the class a, the only suspension upgrade I'm considering now is a steering stabilizer. For those that haven't driven an A, go test drive one in a good cross wind for the heck of it. You'll love the C all over again. Just my opinion. You can dump $1000's in one to make it better, but I'd rather buy something that rides better to start with.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:50 PM   #4
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I've owned Class A's and Class C's.. One thing I learned when moving from a Class A to a Class C is you give up room; storage; turning radius (if you tow a trailer look for a parking lot to turn around in). and the gas mileage is almost identical. (Ford V10- 7-9mpg) I owned a Forest River Class C Forester 2008; 31 ft. I had no problems with the construction; but I did add Timbrens to the rear to stabilize the chassis is turns (worked well) One other thing; if you are a tall person; the room in the front seating area is tight ; you have the dogbox sitting between you and the passenger (new models may have made this better not sure). If you can't back up using just the mirrors then you will have a hard time hanging out the door to see; because you cannot see past the body by just rolling down the window.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:24 PM   #5
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Thanks ATVer. I expect small things and those don't really bother me. Most things I can macgyver myself, except for major structural things such as walls, roof and floors. As long as FR stands behind their product, I'm good. Tiffin is famous for that, I've experienced it first hand, and I'm hoping to get the fuzzy feeling from FR. Coming from the top heavy ride of the class a, the only suspension upgrade I'm considering now is a steering stabilizer. For those that haven't driven an A, go test drive one in a good cross wind for the heck of it. You'll love the C all over again. Just my opinion. You can dump $1000's in one to make it better, but I'd rather buy something that rides better to start with.

Interesting, I thought As would handle and ride better than Cs. Unless you are looking for larger pieces, the Ford Sunseeker comes with a steering stabilizer, front stabilizer bar, rear stabilizer bar, and individually controlled air bags in the rear similar to Timkens that can be adjusted side to side and front to back. The 50 year old twin I beam Ford front suspension design is okay but not as good as the double A frame of the Chevy. However the Chevy won't support the larger floor plans. Bump steer and heavy steering are some of the biggest issues with the Ford and there is a fine line on setup to get it right. I found that small differences in camber, caster, cross camber and toe make a hugh difference in handling and feel. You can search this forum for further info on alignment specs. I am going to change from steel to custom alloy wheels primarily for appearance but reducing the unsprung weight and GVW by more than 50 lbs should also help a little with ride and handling.
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:45 AM   #6
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The class A / F53 chassis is a rough rider from the get go, especially on expansion joints or potholes. You can add timbrens, air bags or sumo springs and I've heard it helps considerably. You're also dealing with leaf springs on a straight axle in the front compared to the twin I-Beams and springs. In order to get them to ride good, your out over $3k, at least in my estimates I would be. I was planning to do all of this myself to the A, but not going to waste the money if we're moving into a C. I'll sink my money in the list of add ons for the C which I do to every RV I own. I'm tickled to see the air bags already on the FR.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:25 AM   #7
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Big John,

I recently, September 2012, sold my Class A and purchased a Forester 3011. Love the floorplan but had a probplem with steering. Adjustments to the tire and air bag pressure have improved the control but agree with others in that it needs a rear stablizer and some adjustment to the alignment. Forest River stands behind their product and I have had no problems with the warranty. A broken handle on the refrigerater was quickly replaced and they are sending out a new bathroom door to my dealer to replace the one that was not correctly installed. We are also having a problem with the wall board that has seperated from the framing but this issue is also being corrected. Overall I would recommend the coach.

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Old 12-07-2012, 11:57 AM   #8
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Unless it has been removed for some reason, you should have a rear stabilizer bar. It's easy to see if you look under the rear. Check the links which you can see from just in front of the rear wheels and make sure they are not broken or disconnected.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:44 PM   #9
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Thanks for the words of encouragement Campingtom. Which wall panel is coming loose from the frame? Surely it's not a delam problem. We've narrowed down our choices to the 3011 or 3101ss. One has a shade bigger toilet closet, or appears to and the other the huge countertop space. Bath would take getting used to as we've had the side hall in the last few RV's. I like the idea of only one slide and no slides on the passenger side. We like our campside outdoor space uninstructed, but could live with the small bedroom slide. Wife likes the idea of getting around the bed easier in the 3101, but likes the horseshoe dinette and kitchen in the 3011. Tough call. Hopefully we will have made a decision by January.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:08 PM   #10
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I think I responded to a question you had on RV.net too.

We ended up with a Sunseeker 3100 but also considered the 3010 (identical layouts to the Forester 3101 & 3011, respectively, that you're considering).

We both liked the counter space in the 3010. But as we dug into it, we discovered a few things with the floorplan that we didn't like. Here they are for what it's worth:

- I decided against the 2nd slide. Love the extra space it provides in the bedroom. But it adds more weight. Longer class C's only have so much CCC. This ate into that.

- The wife did not like the U-shaped dinette at all. True, it makes a bigger bed than the standard dinette which I really prefer for sleeping flexibility. However, she thought the table area itself was too small. Then I sat in it longer, slid out, & bumped my head on the cabinets above. I'm tall at 6 ft 2 in but those cabinets above seemed really low.

- Something else we discovered about the U-shaped dinette since. I'm not sure how many forward facing seatbelts it has??? For us, as it turns out, our 8 year old (actually his stomach) much prefers to be sitting forward facing so the standard dinette works out well for that.
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