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08-04-2015, 12:14 AM
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Location: Southern California
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VWexpert
Jim which interior did you order? The DW vacillated back and forth and finally picked the Taupe with cherry cabinets. I liked the Sahara. She won this round. She said the lighter ultra leather will get too dirty with the dog and me.
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08-04-2015, 01:36 AM
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Jim,
Did you get the side cameras? Worth it!
Marc
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08-04-2015, 10:58 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: California
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Sagecoachdriver...I wanted Taupe but the wife wanted Sahara. We did agree on Cherry cabinets.
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1987 27ft Tioga (bad brakes / tires)
1998 36ft Discovery (rattles / air leaks)
2005 37ft Monaco Knight (lemon Lawed)
2008 40ft Monaco Diplomat (too big)
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08-04-2015, 11:02 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: California
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Marc...yes I did get the side cameras. I also got the outside tv...wife won that battle to.
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1971 20ft fireball (too small)
1987 27ft Tioga (bad brakes / tires)
1998 36ft Discovery (rattles / air leaks)
2005 37ft Monaco Knight (lemon Lawed)
2008 40ft Monaco Diplomat (too big)
2016 Forester 3011 (ordered June 8th - Born Aug 6) IT'S HERE
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08-12-2015, 04:21 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: California
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My 3011 comes with a portable table in the floor at the right rear storage compartment. Does any other models have this option?
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1971 20ft fireball (too small)
1987 27ft Tioga (bad brakes / tires)
1998 36ft Discovery (rattles / air leaks)
2005 37ft Monaco Knight (lemon Lawed)
2008 40ft Monaco Diplomat (too big)
2016 Forester 3011 (ordered June 8th - Born Aug 6) IT'S HERE
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08-12-2015, 05:20 PM
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Wait till next year...
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Southern Worcester County
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2650s has the table and a small cover over a recessed area at rear hatch
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08-12-2015, 06:25 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Utah
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2016 3171DS came with portable table, grill and Dyson.
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08-16-2015, 12:15 PM
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Close to pulling the trigger on a 3051 - few questions for the forum. We understand it comes down to preference and use, looking for your personal opinions. For us: mostly dry camping, just two of us (no kids), live in California, plan to use for day-trips, weekend trips, 2-3 longer trips per year (1-2 weeks):
(1) Dealer advised us to include the outside tv because it will help with resale / trade-in value (this likely won't be our last RV). We don't THINK we'll use it, but never had one so we just don't know. Thoughts?
(2) Bunk / TV Console Option - dealer also advised that the bunk would be a better choice than the entertainment center over the cab for the same reason (trade-in / resale). Curious to hear opinions based on the direction you went.
(3) Double Refrigerator - just two of us - day trips, weekend trips as well as 2-3 longer trips per year (1-2 weeks). Is the single refrigerator too small? Those that went single, did you find yourself wishing you had more space?
(4) 3051s owners. The single slide - when dry camping, do you find that the single slide presents any challenges with leveling the coach? Particularly if you are on an uneven surface (slide-side is lower than non-slide side)?
The sales person we spoke with was adamant that we should take most of the options so that the coach has a higher re-sell / trade-in value w/ very little downside as the payment impact is relatively minor on a 20-year loan. Now I realize the obvious here - sales wants to maximize the price - but do you feel there is validity to the concept? Again, the idea is when it comes to Trade-in the RV, we'll maximize the value because the coach is more "desirable".
Thanks for your help!
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08-16-2015, 02:04 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: North Georgia
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We are also a couple with no kids, two legged anyway, to consider in our RV purchasing. Because we didn't want a family "sleeps 6-8" unit we ordered ours. Our 2400W is maximized for us, not the next owner.
Hopefully you are going to enjoy your RV for a few years so get it the way you want it. Come trade in or resale very few options make any real difference in value. Also since most dealers order their stock unit heavily optioned, more margin in the deal, the sales person will often push selling whats on hand rather than what you can order.
To me outside TV's are just a theft / vandalism issue waiting to happen. They are also generally ridiculously expensive options for what you get. If you really need a a TV outside you can move one.
Bunk or TV console? We ordered our 2400W to get the entertainment center instead of a bunk. We don't need the bunk and wanted the extra storage and larger TV. If no one, besides us, wanted rid of the overhead bunks it wouldn't be an option!
Double refrigerator? Only you can decide if you need it... In my experience we never have needed one.
Any sales person selling a monthly payment difference needs to be watched very carefully. You are being encouraged to purchase things you may not need that will directly benefit the sales persons commission. While I do not consider sales people the "enemy" I count very few of them as "friends" looking out for me!
If you want to maximize your trade in value take good care of your coach and maintain it well. Keep your service records so you can show it has been maintained properly. That will help the trade in, or private sale value, much more than any added options. So buy what you want, not what the sales person needs to sell.
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2024 Sunseeker 2150SLEF / Ford E-350 Off-line 15 April 2024.
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08-16-2015, 05:22 PM
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When I was looking I never looked at a stripped model and I think the more options now the better deal you will get on the options most people do enjoy the options and if you are like me you will ready to trade or sell in a few years leveling jacks are a must good luck
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08-17-2015, 03:31 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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jenericwine, we purchased the 3051 two years ago and love it, but my comments to your questions my not be of much value since our situation is so different. I assume from your comments that you are special ordering your unit. We bought what was available on the lot, but I don't think I would have changed any of my options if I had special ordered. The outside TV: We do use it but primarily only for football Saturdays and maybe the evening news. It won't end up paying for itself based on our limited use. We also financed ours over 20 years also, so an outside TV makes $4 a month difference in payment. The Bunk: We have the bunk. It is a real plus for our grandkids and any adults who would spend the night with us. The booth and the jackknife couch are not great for overnight adult visitors. The bunk gives you great additional storage too, and it is handy storage (always within an arms reach). The entertainment center gives you less storage than the bunk, but it is neater (behind doors). Double Refrigerator: It was one of the things that sold my wife on the 3051s. She loves the icemaker and additional storage, because she cooks ahead, freezes and prepares while we are camping. Based on your situation I think the single will be fine and meet your needs if you can order it that way. I haven't seen a 3051s with a single. The Slide: I don't think it makes any difference in leveling. The auto levelers adjust for the difference in campsite. Has not been an issue.
Good luck with your purchase. We have put 24k miles on ours in 1.5 years and have had no regrets with the unit we chose.
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08-17-2015, 09:21 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jenericwine
(1) Dealer advised us to include the outside tv because it will help with resale / trade-in value (this likely won't be our last RV). We don't THINK we'll use it, but never had one so we just don't know. Thoughts?
(2) Bunk / TV Console Option - dealer also advised that the bunk would be a better choice than the entertainment center over the cab for the same reason (trade-in / resale). Curious to hear opinions based on the direction you
Thanks for your help!
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Outside TV doesn't get much use for us at campgrounds, but does at home while sitting out at the firepit watching the games. Also will be nice for tailgating.
I have a 3170DS and went with the best of both worlds on the bunk. Went with center TV with the double twin option. Works great when the beds are needed but doubles as storage when not.
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08-17-2015, 09:52 PM
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Junior Member
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First off, thank you to those that took the time to respond. It is much appreciated.
We're still a bit undecided, but getting very close. Will report back when the decisions are in.
If anyone else has feedback / opinions, we'd love to hear from you!
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08-17-2015, 10:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: London, Kentucky
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20 years is a long time to finance an RV. You will be upside down in that loan for many years. If you trade in less than 7-10 years you will lose money. Shop around for financing if the monthly payment is the driving force. The dealer is going to make money if you finance there and if he has a better rate it can be beat somewhere. One good option is usually a credit union and many have easy rules for becoming a member.
Travel safe
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08-18-2015, 12:06 PM
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
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Let's face it. Most people buying a new RV are upside down in their loan for many years. There are some good and valid reasons to finance for 20 years. I have no regrets for doing so. I view my RV purchase much like my home mortgage. Why would I pay it off if I am going to trade in for something else in a few years? The dealer will just work some magic and roll the upside down amount into the trade and make some money off the transaction. So be it.
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