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Old 07-21-2016, 05:13 PM   #141
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Going to have my husband look at this! Camper is home, at an angle in the driveway so did not have an issue with the last rainfall! Want it fixed before next trip. Can't have it unlevel while camping! Haha
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:47 AM   #142
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Well. I picked up the 2251 last Saturday and left on my very first trip on Wednesday. Had a great time until it rained yesterday. Have a major roof failure. Water consistently dripping somewhere in the sealed area of the bin housing the radio! I'm sick. Heavy rain predicted all day today. The bin is already ruined. Dealer gave me a mobile service number that's out of order. Called FROG, very nice and compassionate. Gabe me Mike Jankowski's number at F.R. Someone on this forum said roof leaks are rare. Don't worry. Go enjoy.
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Old 07-30-2016, 02:27 PM   #143
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Well. I picked up the 2251 last Saturday and left on my very first trip on Wednesday. Had a great time until it rained yesterday. Have a major roof failure. Water consistently dripping somewhere in the sealed area of the bin housing the radio! I'm sick. Heavy rain predicted all day today. The bin is already ruined. Dealer gave me a mobile service number that's out of order. Called FROG, very nice and compassionate. Gabe me Mike Jankowski's number at F.R. Someone on this forum said roof leaks are rare. Don't worry. Go enjoy.
Im still waiting for Josh to give me a name of the East Coast service Rep! Luckily we haven't had much rain,. Was able to dry it out with the dehumidifier! Going away today. Pray for sunshine for me.
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Old 07-30-2016, 03:32 PM   #144
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Nu2rv - it looks like the bin above the radio is right at the rear of the front ceiling panel trim - which would mean if it's leaking from the roof to cap Seal it would leak down the ceiling panel and out the back and down into that bin since they screw it right into the ceiling. Is yours a soft touch ceiling ? I'm curious to see where it is leaking from because your Forester has the new front cap Design - and for some reason it always seems to leak on the right side for people. Has anyone here had a leak anywhere other than in the front right side of the roof ?

On a side note I think the statement that a leak is rare is not really true - most of the time probably the leak is very small and no one ever knows the difference until 15 years from now when you see evidence of water damage - it may even be a good thing that this happened so fast because it will be under warranty for you. Obviously it would be best if it never leaked but I have had two motorhomes and was pop up camping my whole life when I was a kid - I have yet to see something that has no leaks whatsoever
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Old 07-30-2016, 05:27 PM   #145
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18 dry years in the pop up before a soggy sleep in our new motorhome! Go figure!
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:05 PM   #146
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Looks nice, should hold you for quite a while. Do you have 2 air conditioners? Wish I thought about mounting my satellite antenna where yours is before I mounted my solar panels back there. Could fit in between but I'd be afraid of a shadow on the panels. I don't like the sat dome up front.
My Forester 2701ds is almost a year only and will be out of warranty end of next month. I see the caulk is starting to dry out and crack in a few spot. I have a 50' 3" roll of EB and may start taping the cabover area before winter.
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:13 PM   #147
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Well. I picked up the 2251 last Saturday and left on my very first trip on Wednesday. Had a great time until it rained yesterday. Have a major roof failure. Water consistently dripping somewhere in the sealed area of the bin housing the radio! I'm sick. Heavy rain predicted all day today. The bin is already ruined. Dealer gave me a mobile service number that's out of order. Called FROG, very nice and compassionate. Gabe me Mike Jankowski's number at F.R. Someone on this forum said roof leaks are rare. Don't worry. Go enjoy.
Mike is a good man and will do right by you. I am sorry to hear that you had this happen to you. I feel your pain. I can say that when my rig came back it was better than new. I'm sure Mike will make sure you have the same outcome.

Right now I would put a dehumidifier in your rig and run it full blast. Climb up on that roof and look for cracks or open headed screws. Dicor anything that's questionable. After that, get back up there with a hose and have someone stand in the rig. Spray all around the roof and have the person inside look for water. Remove anything soft that is wet from the rig and let it dry outside of the rig. Get as much of the water out as you can and let the dehumidifier do the rest.
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:51 PM   #148
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Brian Clemens posted this message regarding leak testing on the Forester Forum on 2/11/2013:

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Here is the relevant text:

"100% of our units are leak tested in a rain booth and pressure tested (a commercial fan is attached to a false door pressurizing the unit, then a soap solution is sprayed on the vehicle to check for air leaks). If the unit set on the dealer lot for a decent amout of time, it should have been rechecked before retail delivery. Also, we check them on a fairly level surface, so slope can play a factor as well."

This begs the question as to how some Forester coaches leave the factory with fairly severe roof envelope problems.


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Nu2rv - it looks like the bin above the radio is right at the rear of the front ceiling panel trim - which would mean if it's leaking from the roof to cap Seal it would leak down the ceiling panel and out the back and down into that bin since they screw it right into the ceiling. Is yours a soft touch ceiling ? I'm curious to see where it is leaking from because your Forester has the new front cap Design - and for some reason it always seems to leak on the right side for people. Has anyone here had a leak anywhere other than in the front right side of the roof ?

On a side note I think the statement that a leak is rare is not really true - most of the time probably the leak is very small and no one ever knows the difference until 15 years from now when you see evidence of water damage - it may even be a good thing that this happened so fast because it will be under warranty for you. Obviously it would be best if it never leaked but I have had two motorhomes and was pop up camping my whole life when I was a kid - I have yet to see something that has no leaks whatsoever
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:22 PM   #149
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Yes, Mike has called and gave me another dealer in my area ( a Jayco Dealer) the contact info for. I've contacted them and will be taking the motorhome there for a 15 minute evaluation as to the extent of the damages an how to continue. Mike has offered that if the repairs are beyond the dealers ability that I will be able to bring it back to the factory after the short Minnesota camping season and have the repairs done by trained staff.
i have owned travel trailers for over 20 years,we are thinking of getting a class c,but the more i read about roof leaks i start to wonder.another thing, you have to take it back to the factory for repair,guess they figure you have nothing better to do, you would think for what you paid they would send someone out to pick it up,or better yet make sure there dealers are qualified to fix everything before they are allowed to sell there product.
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The problem here seems to be that the seam is at the low point on the roof. There was an attempt at curving the center of the roof to guide the water off to the corners but the water still pools in the corners at the edge of the caulking. It's not a question of if it will fail but when. I have been looking at this design for years and trying to think of a way to fix it and I keep hitting up against the high points, and butt seams. This is the same for every RV I've owned but the lack of solid support in the front where the cap and roof meet is a real sore point and probably about the only place where FR can make a change. The roof and front cap are stock parts and lets face it, RV manufacturers do not have the resources to custom design parts like Winnebago used to do and some of the luxury builders used to do. Wood would not be a good option due to the thin points at the end so metal would be the way to go. The mounting piece would require some custom machining to fabricate and yes you could buy a large CNC table and start cranking them out to the tune of about 30K+ to start up. You still need to be able reliably attach the cap and roof to the part which makes wood a not so great option. I'm sure this conversation has happened many times at the factory and the cap changes. The only fix I could think of is an old flat roofers trick. Create an inverse spring pack using 1.5 - 2 inch wide painted steel stock stacked on top of each other, place rubber strips made from bike tubes between them to keep them from squeaking, rough in the straps with their rubber strips in place. Use 4 layers of bike tube or a firing strip on top of the straps and against the roof when doing the rough install to give some space. Once in place, tack weld the straps together at multiple points to make it hold its shape. Coat the bar in undercoating to prevent any corrosion in the future. Install the bar under the point where the two seams meet. Using a small drill bit, drill pilot holes into the bar using the existing holes in the roof. Tap the holes to accept your screws of choice. dab some RTV on the holes and send the screws down. Reseal using Dicor or eternabond, repair the interior roof panel. I know at some point I'll need to do this repair but I have yet to find an 8 foot long strip of 1.5 - 2 inch wide 1/4 inch stock that I can use. I might have to weld two four foot pieces which I'm not thrilled with doing since the weld point would be at the peak... Any fabricators out there that can offers some ideas?
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