Thank you for your reply.
I had looked at these three manuals. They do not appear to be what I have. I can not locate the motors or find where one could use a tool to manual extend the slides. Both slides have cables on each coner and appear to be connect via a drive type shaft on the lower part of the slide. There is no opening for a tool eather under the coach or inside and boy we have looked. Just listening to the motor on the bedroom slide it sounds as if it is located on top of the slide behind the wood facing with no access to the motorl
I have previous owned five r.v's all had slides but I have never seen one like these.
I am sure as always with me it is operator error! I will give it another try tomorow .