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06-18-2017, 06:59 PM
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Adding the Toad
Looking at purchasing (tomorrow) a new 2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport, manual transmission. We own a 2016 Georgetown 364ts. Do you think this is a good fit and we're looking at a blue ox towing system. I appreciate your words of wisdom and advice. Thank you.
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06-18-2017, 07:21 PM
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I have a 2015 wrangler unlimited easy setup, they sell a wiring harness that is plug and play. It connects on the passengers side. It is a molar part so you don't need the blue ox wiring harness. And it comes wit the cable from the Jeep to the motor home.
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06-18-2017, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by miked11272
I have a 2015 wrangler unlimited easy setup, they sell a wiring harness that is plug and play. It connects on the passengers side. It is a molar part so you don't need the blue ox wiring harness. And it comes wit the cable from the Jeep to the motor home.
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Hey this is all new to me. So are you saying the jeeps part department has this harness available. Any help you can give would be appreciated. Thank you
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06-18-2017, 07:30 PM
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I bought mine online for about 120 easy install and everything works perfect. When you install on the passenger side there are two harnesses it can connect to you need the top one.
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06-18-2017, 07:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miked11272
I bought mine online for about 120 easy install and everything works perfect. When you install on the passenger side there are two harnesses it can connect to you need the top one.
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Hey one last favor could you supply
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06-18-2017, 07:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miked11272
I bought mine online for about 120 easy install and everything works perfect. When you install on the passenger side there are two harnesses it can connect to you need the top one.
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I was asking if you could supply the link
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06-18-2017, 07:32 PM
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06-18-2017, 07:35 PM
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Impressive, thank you
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06-18-2017, 07:37 PM
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No problem, enjoy the Jeep.
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06-18-2017, 07:43 PM
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Adding the Toad
you don't need keys in it because the steering doesn't lock. You also don't have to disconnect the battery. Power port in the center console you can use for the supplemental break system, it has power all the time.
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06-18-2017, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by miked11272
you don't need keys in it because the steering doesn't lock. You also don't have to disconnect the battery. Power port in the center console you can use for the supplemental break system, it has power all the time.
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Be sure and crank your vehicle at the end of the day and charge the battery and also turn off the brake system. We didn't one night, I forgot it, next day had a brake error, dead battery. I put in supplemental 12 volt from the mh to the toad after that.
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2011 Georgetown 378TS
2008 Dodge Caliber Toad
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06-18-2017, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miked11272
you don't need keys in it because the steering doesn't lock. You also don't have to disconnect the battery. Power port in the center console you can use for the supplemental break system, it has power all the time.
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So, you don't have any power issues pulling the jeep with the Georgetown?
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06-18-2017, 08:01 PM
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So, you don't have any power issues pulling the jeep with the Georgetown?
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Of course you do, you never tow something for nothing. The question is does the Georgetown have enough power to pull it efficiently and the answer is yes.
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2008 Dodge Caliber Toad
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06-18-2017, 09:03 PM
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We have a 2015 4 door Jeep Wrangler Sport with a 2015 Georgetown 351DS and we tow with a Blue Ox system and a supplemental break. I believe the Air Force One break and we have no problems Towing the jeep with the Georgetown.
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06-19-2017, 12:52 PM
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We have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (automatic trans) and tow it behind our 351DS. We use a Roadmaster Sterling All-Terrain tow bar and a Brakemaster as the supplemental brake.
We picked the Roadmaster because I wanted a non-binding tow bar (plus they are local to our area, based in Vancouver, WA)
Just had it set up this spring, it's a piece of cake to hook and unhook. We've noticed about a 1 MPG degradation when towing the jeep.
My DH has been playing with the tow/haul mode this past trip, said it seemed to help quite a bit with hills and such. There was a thread about it maybe a week or 10 days ago I sent to him to read, you may want to look for it as well.
Garren
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2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
Chris, Garren (humans)
Edgar & Carlos (felines)
RIP Sophie, the sweetest cat ever.
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06-19-2017, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JimF
Be sure and crank your vehicle at the end of the day and charge the battery and also turn off the brake system. We didn't one night, I forgot it, next day had a brake error, dead battery. I put in supplemental 12 volt from the mh to the toad after that.
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When we got out Jeep, the 12 volt power supply in the console was only live with the ignition on. We determined that the fuse block under the hood has two adjoining fuse locations for that power supply. Merely pulling the fuse and placing it in the adjoining fuse slot made the console power supply powered without the ignition off. Jeep engineers have done an outstanding job of making this a nearly perfect toad.
Unlike some other toads, the Jeeps have a neutral position in the transfer case, the transmission is dormant-as is the odometer. But, that leaves the brake controller that draws power from the toad battery.We have learned from others on this forum to unplug the brake controller when not towing to conserve the battery power. We also added an RVibrake battery tender-extremely easy to install and we never had a dead battery, even though we didn't start the Jeep. The TV is wired to the 7-pin wiring harness with a wire that provides 12 volts to the toad only when the TV ignition is on. It is off when the TV ignition is off. This is a perfect setup for the RVibrake battery tender. No draw on the TV when parked and the toad battery is maintained at full charge when travelling. The Blue Ox 7-pin to 5-pin wire harness to the toad is wired for this application
We use a Blue Ox Aladdin BX4325 7,500 lb tow bar that has done an excellent job. Note, there was a former BX4325 that was all aluminum and had a 5,000 lb capacity-withing the limits of a 2-door Wrangler, but under capacity for the 4-door. The new version is partially aluminum with steel to the receiver hitch so it is a little easier to handle when connecting.
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06-19-2017, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PenJoe
When we got out Jeep, the 12 volt power supply in the console was only live with the ignition on. We determined that the fuse block under the hood has two adjoining fuse locations for that power supply. Merely pulling the fuse and placing it in the adjoining fuse slot made the console power supply powered without the ignition off. Jeep engineers have done an outstanding job of making this a nearly perfect toad.
Unlike some other toads, the Jeeps have a neutral position in the transfer case, the transmission is dormant-as is the odometer. But, that leaves the brake controller that draws power from the toad battery.We have learned from others on this forum to unplug the brake controller when not towing to conserve the battery power. We also added an RVibrake battery tender-extremely easy to install and we never had a dead battery, even though we didn't start the Jeep. The TV is wired to the 7-pin wiring harness with a wire that provides 12 volts to the toad only when the TV ignition is on. It is off when the TV ignition is off. This is a perfect setup for the RVibrake battery tender. No draw on the TV when parked and the toad battery is maintained at full charge when travelling. The Blue Ox 7-pin to 5-pin wire harness to the toad is wired for this application
We use a Blue Ox Aladdin BX4325 7,500 lb tow bar that has done an excellent job. Note, there was a former BX4325 that was all aluminum and had a 5,000 lb capacity-withing the limits of a 2-door Wrangler, but under capacity for the 4-door. The new version is partially aluminum with steel to the receiver hitch so it is a little easier to handle when connecting.
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Guys are amazing in there and I'm negotiating the jeep deal right now. I have to met I'm excited and nervous.
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06-19-2017, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kentdavido
Guys are amazing in there and I'm negotiating the jeep deal right now. I have to met I'm excited and nervous.
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What I meant to say was you guys are all amazing. The deal is done on the jeep. The next step will be getting all the towing stuff wrapped up. Excited and nervous.
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