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Old 05-01-2014, 07:46 PM   #21
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lol....I'm not arguing...You guys are absolutely correct and impervious to any and all litigation. Anyone that comes near you KNOWS that you are untouchable.....

WHO CARES? Put monster truck tires on your RV's and have a blast! I posted my opinion in an attempt to help the OP....It was only my opinion and none of your arguments have changed it. No idea what the jacks argument was about....pretty sure they serve a function and are supplied from a manufacturer for a specific purpose....but whatever....

Point is, do whatever.....I prefer to install equipment made for the task as opposed to modifying existing equipment at home, with no support from a manufacturer....Just my preference.....You go do whatever you need to do....
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:03 AM   #22
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"There is a difference between installing a piece of equipment that's designed and sold for a specific application and modifying an existing piece of equipment at home because you read it on a forum".
The way I read this is that the sway bar isn't a Ford part, and we're making unsafe modification, not just making an adjustment.

If we use the above logic and the jacks lift the front wheels off the ground

(every time, which is the way ours was delivered)

then we can’t adjust the level point.

Edit: I need to practice taking pictures, this site is slightly unlevel, higher in the back.
I don't think must of us are dumb enough to do it just because we read it on the forum.

If you know me, you would notice that the first thing I do with everything is research it. Probably why I still haven't done the front sway bar...well, I'm still not sold it does that it does that much for sway and they are a pricey experiment.

When FR gets the frames from Ford they come with all sort of extra wires, etc, so that the manufacturer can pick and choose according to what's going on top.

What Ford needs to do is include longer front end links and let the manufacturer choose which position is best for the ride. I think that's the missing link...no pun intended...well, maybe a little. That'll solve the heebie-jeebies issues some are having.
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:10 AM   #23
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lol....I'm not arguing...You guys are absolutely correct and impervious to any and all litigation. Anyone that comes near you KNOWS that you are untouchable.....

WHO CARES? Put monster truck tires on your RV's and have a blast! I posted my opinion in an attempt to help the OP....It was only my opinion and none of your arguments have changed it. No idea what the jacks argument was about....pretty sure they serve a function and are supplied from a manufacturer for a specific purpose....but whatever....
I'm not arguing either. I'm just trying to use the force to get you to come into the dark side.

I do like your statement though, "Anyone that comes near you KNOWS that you are untouchable...." It's true, you know

Monster tires? I have thought about it, but the wheel wells are too small.

Okay, nuf' beers, back to my illegal redneck doins'
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:16 AM   #24
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I think what we need here is data. It would be nice to know how many folk have done the CHF, for how many years, and any safety issues. These questions are probably better on a broader forum such as irv2.

I've put~4,000 miles and IIRC, I did the CHF 11-2013 No issues, 2k miles with the stock short links, and 2k miles with Hellwigs.
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:02 PM   #25
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I don't normally post in other sub forums however, considering the
tone of this topic I felt the need to offer an alternative notion.
Since my Coach is on a 2014 F-53 Chassis and because it is so light,
I had a demonstrated need to address the sway issue. My research brought me to "CHF" as some describe it. So I contacted the dealer and made the inquiry.
Turns out that it is not considered a "Modification". It is a simple adjustment to a variable component engineered and tested by Ford. It is no different than having the wheels aligned. You loosen a bolt and make the adjustment for a safe, stable ride.

I also installed a Safe-T-Plus steering dampener for the same
reason... a safer, stable ride. That is not a modification either.
It is an add-on component.

I have about 1000 miles since the adjustment in March 2014 and would not leave home without it.
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Old 05-05-2014, 07:19 AM   #26
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I don't normally post in other sub forums however, considering the
tone of this topic I felt the need to offer an alternative notion.
Since my Coach is on a 2014 F-53 Chassis and because it is so light,
I had a demonstrated need to address the sway issue. My research brought me to "CHF" as some describe it. So I contacted the dealer and made the inquiry.
Turns out that it is not considered a "Modification". It is a simple adjustment to a variable component engineered and tested by Ford. It is no different than having the wheels aligned. You loosen a bolt and make the adjustment for a safe, stable ride.

I also installed a Safe-T-Plus steering dampener for the same
reason... a safer, stable ride. That is not a modification either.
It is an add-on component.

I have about 1000 miles since the adjustment in March 2014 and would not leave home without it.
That's what I was trying to explain, but glad you took it a step further by contacting a dealer.

Like I said, Ford should include longer links so that the manufacturer can choose which position on the sway bar suits the coach better. I think the ones that haven't done it are more worried about the sway bar hitting the leaf springs. No way that will ever happen while on the road, but it does lift the tires while leveling. I think if the sway bar didn't hit the leaf springs, the non-believers will do it...and then go, wow!
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:06 PM   #27
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You mean something like this?? *stirring the pot*

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Old 05-06-2014, 07:46 PM   #28
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You mean something like this?? *stirring the pot*

Hey, I didn't say it was okay to post pics of my coach.
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I don't normally post in other sub forums however, considering the
tone of this topic I felt the need to offer an alternative notion.
Since my Coach is on a 2014 F-53 Chassis and because it is so light,
I had a demonstrated need to address the sway issue. My research brought me to "CHF" as some describe it. So I contacted the dealer and made the inquiry.
Turns out that it is not considered a "Modification". It is a simple adjustment to a variable component engineered and tested by Ford. It is no different than having the wheels aligned. You loosen a bolt and make the adjustment for a safe, stable ride.

I also installed a Safe-T-Plus steering dampener for the same
reason... a safer, stable ride. That is not a modification either.
It is an add-on component.

I have about 1000 miles since the adjustment in March 2014 and would not leave home without it.
Stop by anytime.

We may be talking about our less than 7 MPG (4.7 climbing from the panhandle of TX. to Walsenburg CO. 10 to 15 headwind) what do you get?
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About how many chassis AC compressors we’ve had.
Etc.

Thanks for the CHF info from Ford.

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Stop by anytime.

We may be talking about our less than 7 MPG (4.7 climbing from the panhandle of TX. to Walsenburg CO. 10 to 15 headwind) what do you get?
or
About how many chassis AC compressors we’ve had.
Etc.

Thanks for the CHF info from Ford.

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I'm thinking of adding small decals to the rear end of our coach. You know, CHF, TigerTrak, etc. It would also be cool to add something that lets others know how many AC compressors you've gone through. You know, kinda like how many planes you've shot down. LOL Ours is too new, but I'm sure I'll be dealing with it sooner or later. Glad I have the tools to do it. Still can't believe the main seal cannot be replaced. I've changed them out in the distant past.
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