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09-24-2018, 03:05 PM
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Co2/propane alarm
My alarm is needing replaced, it is a 4 wire unit , as it shuts off the propane also, they want 289.00 for one here that is B.S. Can get a 2 wire for 78.00 will this work? Help can't cook we are full timers
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09-24-2018, 03:10 PM
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No it will not work, you need the 4 wire to keep the propane shut off solenoid energized near the propane tank.
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09-24-2018, 03:10 PM
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The two wire is an alarm only and will not operate the propane relay. If you are going to keep the propane relay ( recommended) you will need the 4 wire version).
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09-24-2018, 03:59 PM
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Where do you get one have looked everywhere nada
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09-24-2018, 03:59 PM
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Can get a 3 wire , only 3 wires coming out of wall
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09-24-2018, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
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Where do you get one have looked everywhere nada
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It's not CO2... it's CO. Maybe you're searching for CO2.
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09-24-2018, 04:08 PM
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Thanks
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09-24-2018, 05:28 PM
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[QUOTE=rwehba;1935596]Where do you get one have looked everywhere nada
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https://www.mtiindustries.com/produc...i=1&si=1&pi=50
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09-24-2018, 05:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rwehba
My alarm is needing replaced, it is a 4 wire unit , as it shuts off the propane also, they want 289.00 for one here that is B.S. Can get a 2 wire for 78.00 will this work? Help can't cook we are full timers
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Look on Amazon $74 buck for your 4 wire combo unit free shipping. even RV upgrade store has them for cheaper
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09-24-2018, 07:16 PM
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Looked can't find it you have a number?
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09-24-2018, 09:36 PM
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MTI will not sell the 4 wire without the new solenoid valve. Don't ask me why because it doesn't go bad . I'm on my third CO detector and have 2 sol valves in the garage.
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09-25-2018, 09:14 AM
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Ok the wires in the wall are black yellow and white,, the yellow went to one of the white on alarm,white in wall went to black on alarm, red in wall went to red and other white on alarm. Have called all over no 4 wire,seems everyone now has gone to 2 wire can't call MIT ind. no phone number emailed them no answer yet. Ideas anyone. Wife needs propane
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09-25-2018, 08:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rwehba
Ok the wires in the wall are black yellow and white,, the yellow went to one of the white on alarm,white in wall went to black on alarm, red in wall went to red and other white on alarm. Have called all over no 4 wire,seems everyone now has gone to 2 wire can't call MIT ind. no phone number emailed them no answer yet. Ideas anyone. Wife needs propane
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I just replaced mine yesterday. Bought it at Camping World for 154.00 less instant 10.00 coupon. (The white model was 250.00). It is the four wire version. I am selling the solenoid on eBay for 30 bucks. I received it in 3 days shipping time. 3 wires were in the wall and the detector had 4 wire but the installation manual showed how to hook it up.
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09-25-2018, 08:43 PM
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Ok thanks
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09-28-2018, 09:00 AM
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Had a call back from fr yesterday, and found out they do not use a solenoid anymore on the propane line. They use a 2 wire alarm now ,,, go figure so now what do I do.
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09-28-2018, 09:08 AM
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trace the propane line and figure out where the solenoid is, then pull it out and connect the line without the solenoid, then get 2 wire system...
or get a mobile RV tech to come out to help you
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09-28-2018, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rwehba
Had a call back from fr yesterday, and found out they do not use a solenoid anymore on the propane line. They use a 2 wire alarm now ,,, go figure so now what do I do.
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Are you saying you don't have a solenoid?
It should be located just a foot away from the propane tank output line. If your old detector had 3 wires in the wall I would assume you have the valve, somewhere.
If you do not have a solenoid valve, then the things to check would be: propane thank valve open, regulator maybe bad or stuck, see if the propane water heater is working and bleed the propane lines. Listen for a hissing sound when stove top burner is turned on.
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09-28-2018, 12:21 PM
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Solenoid valve[ATTACH]187725
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09-28-2018, 03:55 PM
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Yes I have the solenoid, my 4 wire co,propane alarm is bad, have 3 wires in wall. Fr said they don't use the 4 wire or solenoid anymore. So I have to remove it and use a 2 wire.
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09-28-2018, 05:57 PM
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Co2/propane alarm
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwehba
Yes I have the solenoid, my 4 wire co,propane alarm is bad, have 3 wires in wall. Fr said they don't use the 4 wire or solenoid anymore. So I have to remove it and use a 2 wire.
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I would buy one from Campingworld.com. Like I mentioned they will ship to you in 3 days. 144.00 for the brown unit.
I would assume that you need to replace a 4 wire unit with a 4 wire unit. If you replace it with a 2 wire unit the propane may not flow. If you want to use a 2 wire unit you will need to send 12 volts to the valve to make it open but you defeat the safety feature of the valve.
Your coach may have been produced before the wiring change, hence Forest River may be mistaken.
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