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Old 10-03-2014, 08:32 PM   #1
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Disappointed.. Lippert and Forest River.... Another set of bad hoses...

Well a few weeks ago..I posted how forest river had lippart send me some new hoses to replace the ones that had blistered... I expressed my concern about the replacement orange hoses but was assured that the new hoses do not have any issue... I replaced them myself... Well today less than 3 weeks after I replaced them ...First outing almost 1200 miles from home I notice that one of the new hoses has a huge blister the size of a ping pong ball right next to fitting by the manifold.( haven't checked the full extent because of weather.... So now I'm back at stage one1200 miles from home and out the hrs I spent on my back under the the rig...

I know it's lipparts issue..But I would like to believe that Forest River would have made sure that this problem was rectified before they had Lippart send me new hoses...I have alway purchased Forest River products... But my confidence in them is slowly disappearing....
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:35 PM   #2
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hoses for what?
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:42 PM   #3
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hoses for what?
The Georgetown motorhomes used hydraulics for levelers as well as some have them for the slides.
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Leveling hoses.....on the plus side.. Right now it looks like its just that one hoses... (haven't seen whats over the frame) On the bad side..It's the one that snakes all the way to the left rear jack... Up and over the gas tank...
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:16 AM   #5
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Am on my fifth (5) trip to dealers for hydraulic leaks on Lippert sytem. Why does FR insist on using LIPPERT they obviously are JUNK> Always a problem.Hve not had a clear trip since owning the coach (25+k miles) SHAME ON FOREST RIVER. Will not ever own another FR product w/Lippert hyd.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:28 AM   #6
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Sounds more like a problem with a hose supplier than Lippert I have had no Issues with my slides on mine. Also could be wrong type oil in system bad hose crimps loose or wrong type fitting for hose causing oil to get in between the jackets or layers of hose causing the blister.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:33 AM   #7
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I believe lippart makes there own hoses.. Since the packaging receipts states 40ft of hose , 8 fitting and 8 O-rings) ( never got O rings)
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:44 AM   #8
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They possibly do but they still would have to buy the hose and fittings from a hydraulic supplier we used to make our own hydraulic hoses were I worked but it was a problem if you assembled them wrong. So the company ended up buying them from a Hydraulic supplier who made custom hoses turned out cheaper for us than making our own.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:58 AM   #9
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The orange hose problem is no different than the china bomb tire problem factories use the cheapest part they can find. The only true fix to this issue is to find a shop that makes hydraulic hose and ask for sae 100r2 rated hose and get rid of the orange junk hoses
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I also assume the hose isn't in a "bind" at the fitting. ALL hydraulic hoses have a minimum bend radius. If it is bent at the fitting...or anywhere for that matter....maybe the hose is under-rated for the operating pressure. If the hose is all appropriate..no tight bends, but isn't factory made. I would then suspect the "building" of the hose. There is a pretty good safety factor in the operating to minimum burst rating on hoses.

I assume these are non-conductive hoses(no metal) so they are not expensive. If you get tired of dealing with it...get a genuine hydraulic shop to build some. I suggest Parker, Weatherhead or Gates.


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Not being familiar with how the hose snakes underneath your rig, I will ask a question. Is it possible the hose is getting pinched at some point? Ie the propane line in my slide got pinched every time I closed my slide causing damage to my propane hose. Got a new hose and rerouted it when we changed it out. No more issue. Just another thought process for you.
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:48 PM   #12
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Not pinched no kink .. Large loop on all fittings and a straight shot to rear jack.. Fastened same way other was..

Googled and read that it could be gas from the hose gassing out.. The bubble feels really soft like pushing on a under inflated ballon and when I place a flashlight behind it I do not see anything inside the bubble..I presume I would see the reddish tint of ATF ...
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Not familiar with the "gas deal". I never built non-conductive hoses only 2 and 4 braid hydraulic hoses. Call a store that does and ask them. They are the experts here.


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Old 10-04-2014, 02:28 PM   #14
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I would possibly check with a local hydraulics shop. They may be able to make some better quality ones.
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Were it me and the fix wasn't corrected at his point. I would locate a business that specializes in building hydraulic hoses such as a farm/tractor dealer, parts store, or commercial hose line dealer and have the hose custom make. Many time a shop that specializes in radiator rebuild and such will also do hydraulic hoses.
As the saying goes, sometimes it better to go big or just go home. They will need your old hose to match up the end threads before assembling you a new custom hose.
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Old 10-04-2014, 03:36 PM   #16
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I'm going to try and get it home.. Called local Napa and they weren't sure they had correct fittings....

What really burns me is what if I had paid someone for install 5-6 hundred and had the same issue happen less than 3 weeks later.. You would think that they would make sure everything was 100% before they ship it out..
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Take your old hose to a Marine and Industrial supplier that has Parker or Gates hoses. They will have the correct size, ends and pressure rating you need.
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First of all the person that installed the hose may have
screwed up or pinched it while installing the hose.
Second make sure that you get a locate a business that
specializes in building hydraulic hoses, don't mess around.
Third, I have seen far more problems than a bad hose
problem here, this seems to me be a minor problem.

The other problem I see here is that if you are so worried
about this hose ask a local parts store or NAPA where
you can find a local business that specializes in building
hydraulic hoses and have it fixed there. I hate to be so
harsh but I can see if the hose breaks the you will have
hyd fluid all over the bottom, then complain about that,
so get it fixed thus you can sleep and not worry.

All trailer MFG have problems with some of their products,
so if you have a problem with the next trailer you buy
from another MFG will you state you will never buy their
brand as well, soon you will run out of MFG then what...
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:50 AM   #19
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First of all the person that installed the hose may have
screwed up or pinched it while installing the hose.
Second make sure that you get a locate a business that
specializes in building hydraulic hoses, don't mess around.
Third, I have seen far more problems than a bad hose
problem here, this seems to me be a minor problem.

The other problem I see here is that if you are so worried
about this hose ask a local parts store or NAPA where
you can find a local business that specializes in building
hydraulic hoses and have it fixed there. I hate to be so
harsh but I can see if the hose breaks the you will have
hyd fluid all over the bottom, then complain about that,
so get it fixed thus you can sleep and not worry.

All trailer MFG have problems with some of their products,
so if you have a problem with the next trailer you buy
from another MFG will you state you will never buy their
brand as well, soon you will run out of MFG then what...

Chuckw5kav ..Did you read my posts??

First I installed the hoses so I know it wasn't pinched..but I mentioned that above..Second where did you read I was worried about the hose.. I never posted I was worried...I also mentioned in a earlier post you must have missed that one also.. that I would be replacing them when I get home.... And were did you read I wouldn't buy another MH from FR??i

Chuckw5kav I really don't want to be harsh but it seems you either didn't read my posts at all or read into them..Then came in with all these assumptions...

But thanks for your input either way..
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Old 10-05-2014, 06:46 AM   #20
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Napa can make up the hoses, they have the fittings or they can have them in a day. Second did I read they sent you the hose's but not the "O" rings? you need to replace them or that will be your weak link. Lippert doesn't make the hoses they buy them out right on big spools. I have also never heard of air getting between the jacket and the hose itself. Air travels with the ATF. All hoses come with a bust rate or pressure rate. If the bubble is at the fitting, then my money would be on the fitting or connection. But it's just a guess and I can understand why you would be upset.
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