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01-11-2013, 11:14 AM
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Electrical outlets 110V in same circuit
In my 2013 350XL I noticed the wiring for ALL of the 110V electrical outlets are on the same circuit. With 5 TVs in this rig, this is very concerning. If I have 3 TVs on, and I got to plug in a toaster or coffee machine, the circuit trips. Anybody else having this problem or concern?
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01-11-2013, 11:33 AM
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I think most coaches have all 110v wiring on a single circuit. I know we blow ours frequently, and have even tripped the campground 30 amp with the water heater running.
My long term plan is do a significant re-wire.
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01-11-2013, 11:34 AM
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My experience is that most trailer manufacturer wire the 110V outlets as you have described. Depending on your trailer, you may have empty breaker slots that you could wire some of the outlets to.
The 110V outlets on my Rockwood Roo 23SS are all connected to a single breaker. When I need to run an electric heater, I use a separate extension cord plugged into the power pole. This provides a separate circuit for the heater, which allows me to use the coffee maker without unplugging the heater.
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01-11-2013, 11:56 AM
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Most larger campers have 2 - 120V circuits with 30A service. In ours the kitchen is on 1 circuit, the front of the camper is on a 2nd circuit along with the converter.
Your Georgetown is 50A, correct? That would mean that you have 2 50A 120V busses in the power center. Even if you're only plugged into 30A service both busses would be powered but limited to 30A total. It would be very hard to believe that all the 120V outlets are wired on only 1 of the 2 busses.
Dave
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01-11-2013, 12:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MGOBlue
In my 2013 350XL I noticed the wiring for ALL of the 110V electrical outlets are on the same circuit. With 5 TVs in this rig, this is very concerning. If I have 3 TVs on, and I got to plug in a toaster or coffee machine, the circuit trips. Anybody else having this problem or concern?
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Receptacles in your kitchen will be on the GFIC Circuit and the TVs will be on the other 20 amp breaker. If you're using the receptacle at the dinette though it will be on the same circuit as the TVs.
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01-11-2013, 12:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Monica
Most larger campers have 2 - 120V circuits with 30A service. In ours the kitchen is on 1 circuit, the front of the camper is on a 2nd circuit along with the converter.
Your Georgetown is 50A, correct? That would mean that you have 2 50A 120V busses in the power center. Even if you're only plugged into 30A service both busses would be powered but limited to 30A total. It would be very hard to believe that all the 120V outlets are wired on only 1 of the 2 busses.
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I have owned 2 TTs (27ft & 30ft) and both had 2 circuits. Most recently I had 32ft FW and that had 2 circuits. Both the FW and TTs were 30A service. Now I move up to a 37Ft MH with 50A service and only one circuit for all outlets. I'm hoping FR will do something about it. if not, I'm going to Master Tech in the spring to have it re-wired appropriately.
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01-11-2013, 12:22 PM
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In my 2007 Georgetown FR wired all of the regular 120 volt receptacles in the bedroom, entertainment areas and near the dinette on the same 20 amp breaker. The receptacles in the bathroom, kitchen and outside compartment are on another 20 amp breaker that run through the GFIC Receptacle. The double pole 50 amp breaker divided the panel with [1] AC Unit, Microwave and Receptacles on one side and [1] AC Unit, Water Heater and GFIC Receptacles on the other side. Is your unit different from this set-up?
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01-11-2013, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MGOBlue
In my 2013 350XL I noticed the wiring for ALL of the 110V electrical outlets are on the same circuit. With 5 TVs in this rig, this is very concerning. If I have 3 TVs on, and I got to plug in a toaster or coffee machine, the circuit trips. Anybody else having this problem or concern?
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WOW! FIVE TV's on at the same time. Big family and lots of noise.
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01-11-2013, 04:31 PM
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Believe me...I know!! 3 girls...enough said! We haven't had all 5 on at the same time yet. I'm not sure the circuit could handle it.
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01-11-2013, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MGOBlue
I have owned 2 TTs (27ft & 30ft) and both had 2 circuits. Most recently I had 32ft FW and that had 2 circuits. Both the FW and TTs were 30A service. Now I move up to a 37Ft MH with 50A service and only one circuit for all outlets. I'm hoping FR will do something about it. if not, I'm going to Master Tech in the spring to have it re-wired appropriately.
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You should contact Forest River, that definitely isn't wired right.
Dave
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01-11-2013, 06:08 PM
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Our unit have all the 120 outlets on one 15 amp breaker.
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01-11-2013, 06:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MGOBlue
Believe me...I know!! 3 girls...enough said! We haven't had all 5 on at the same time yet. I'm not sure the circuit could handle it.
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How many are on when M plays OSU? Youroo!!
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01-11-2013, 06:39 PM
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Today's televisions are, for the most part, low amperage draws. It's some of the kitchen appliances that can really draw amps.....
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