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Old 02-25-2016, 02:13 PM   #11
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Tow the wife's RAV4 on a Master Tow dolly and you hardly know its back there! Stinks though is most vehicles now have bucket seats up front so you need to go with some kind of SUV front wheel drive for the dolly or 4WD, heavier, if it has a manual transfer case to put into neutral.
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Old 02-25-2016, 02:17 PM   #12
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Buick Terraza work? Fwd...seems to be equipped nice with leather and did for reasonably cheap? Can get a loaded one of those for less than 04 Odyssey base model.

Town and country? I know nothing of minivans and wife said Mazda 5 too small
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Old 02-25-2016, 03:10 PM   #13
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Newer Ford Explorer

I've been towing a 2015 2w FWD Ford Explorer over 10000 miles with no issues other then making sure not to run the battery down. It weighs in at 4400 # and can seat 6.
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Old 02-26-2016, 10:29 PM   #14
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2003 4x4 Dodge Dakota w 4 doors works well for us. Seats six and with the box in the bed I can stow all the towing gear and lock it out of sight. Same vehicle up to 2011 is towable.
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Old 02-27-2016, 07:25 AM   #15
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Skip the dolly, tow with 5 wheels down and save 1000lb in the process. Many jeeps allow 4wheel down towing as well as many others.
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Old 02-27-2016, 08:52 AM   #16
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If I am not mistaken the reason for the 4000 lb towing limit, is to keep you under the 26,000 GVWR. 22,000 for coach and 4,000 tow = 26,000 lbs. Over 26,000 could require a step up in your drivers license.


The biggest worry I have with our Coachmen is the frame extensions that were added to the rear of the frame to get the overall length they wanted. Some of the welding doesn't look the greatest. Most hitches have a little bit of extra capacity built in.
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Old 02-27-2016, 09:30 AM   #17
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Two different things when you are talking vehicle capacity versus hitch capacity.
If you read the documentation vehicle capacity always trumps hitch capacity.

Hitches come in various classes based on their ratings. Ranging from Class I-V, 2,000#-20,000#

FWIW I have a Ford Focus with a Class I hitch on it, the hitch is rated to 2,000 pounds, the Focus is not rated for towing. In this particular case the hitch was put on for a bicycle rack.

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If I am not mistaken the reason for the 4000 lb towing limit, is to keep you under the 26,000 GVWR. 22,000 for coach and 4,000 tow = 26,000 lbs. Over 26,000 could require a step up in your drivers license.


The biggest worry I have with our Coachmen is the frame extensions that were added to the rear of the frame to get the overall length they wanted. Some of the welding doesn't look the greatest. Most hitches have a little bit of extra capacity built in.
the limit is indeed to keep you under the GCWR, if you go over the 4000 on the towed vehicle, you are still within range if you are under the 26000 GCWR, the coach if not heavily loaded should be well under the 22000 GVWR. Over 26000 does require a different license class but would not allow you to exceed the GCWR of the motorhome
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Wife's vehicle is 14 F150 super crew...I just now see the 16 aluminum f150 is under or close to 5,000 pounds.....and apparently flat towable! I see an upgrade in her future to a new 2.7 ecoboost....will an f150 accumulate miles if flat towed? Lease....
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Old 02-27-2016, 03:03 PM   #20
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A lot of folks confusing weight terminology. GVWR is the gross vehicle weight rating and is the chassis rating
. I.E 22K, 24K, 26K. The 364 is on a 22K chassis. The most it can weigh by it's self is 22,000 pounds. This includes the basic weight of the coach and everything you put in it. For example if the 364 weights 19,000 empty then you could load 3,000 pounds of people, water food and other stuff.

The next figure is the Gross Combined Vehicle Rating or GCVWR. For the 22K chassis this figure is 26,000 pounds. For those on a 24K or 26K chassis this figure is 30,000 pounds.

So if you have a 364 and the vehicle weighs for example 21,000 pounds with everything and everyone loaded ready to travel then it would leave you 5,000 pounds for a toad vehicle. In this case you would not exceed the 22K for the Chassis or the 26K GCVWR.

As far a special license go. It is based on the Chassis rating not the Combined rating. One you cross over the 26K chassis rating the you enter this world. The largest gas chassis ford build is the 26K chassis.

Hope this helps.
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