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Old 06-07-2012, 07:29 PM   #1
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Has anyone weighed a Georgetown 378TS

Has anyone weighed the axles of a 2012 Georgetown 378TS?

The reason I'm asking is because I may add 2 air bags to the rear to put a little more weight to the front end which in turn will make the front end more stable during driving and less wandering.

I'm considering Firestone Ride_Rite Model 2170.

Also if anyone has installed these I'd like to hear your opinion on how well it works or not.

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Old 06-07-2012, 09:09 PM   #2
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Hey Iggy, if you purchased, or are thinking of purchasing any extended warranties, make sure you won't invalidate them with that mod. Any 3rd party suspension mods kill mine.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:33 PM   #3
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I'm not worried about adding 2 air bags. It is not modifing anything that that is part of the rig. Just replacing the 2 hard baby bumbers Ford installed and placing a bag in its place.

Thanks for bringing to our attention.

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Has anyone weighed the axles of a 2012 Georgetown 378TS?
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My understanding is that airbags don't shift any weight. Time for a trip to the CAT scale.
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My understanding is that airbags don't shift any weight. Time for a trip to the CAT scale.
The way it was explained to me is that the majority of the MH weight is in the rear and the front end is lighter. This is because of the light V10 and transmission is behind the front axle. When driving down the road your get air lift in the front under the rig and it makes the front end rise and the steering wheel seem light while driving at 60 mph or greater. By adding and adjusting the 2 air bags in the rear will lift the rear about 1" when driving and will put more weight forward to the front wheels for a more stable steering and control feel in the steering wheel.

The front end has been checked and is correct and tires and steering box are all ok.
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By adding and adjusting the 2 air bags in the rear will lift the rear about 1" when driving and will put more weight forward to the front wheels for a more stable steering and control feel in the steering wheel.
I'm sure there are benefits of airbags, but what they are suggesting about a weight transfer doesn't seem right to me, Iggy.

This seems to be saying that airbags will shift the COG significantly enough from rear to front to add enough weight to feel a difference. I just don't see it.

I think your first request for weights is needed here. It would need to be an experiment with two weights taken at the CAT scale - a base weight showing each axle and a weight showing the axles after the airbags have been inflated. What is the amount of weight or force shifted?

I can't imagine that there will be that much weight transferred. It would be interesting to see if someone can show this empirically for you.
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I have not bought anything yet as I'm gathering information.
The concept of transferring more weight to the front wheels sounds feasable in making the front suspension work more by baring more weight. It also repaltes to the type of leaf springs that are tapered at the ends which makes them flex more initially. Can't remember what they call that but the leaf springs are thinner and less meaty on the ends which makes them softer on inital flexing and hard stiffer as they are pressed down more.

Lets just talk more about the concept of how to make the front end less responsive to road conditions at higher speeds.
Lower speed is not any issues but highway speed 60 mph and great is when you are more susceptable to side sway and make steering feel light or light floating the front wheels. This also when it happens makes the rear sway.
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I have not bought anything yet as I'm gathering information.
I know. I was suggesting that someone who already has the airbags on their rig could run it over the scales a couple of times. Its an interesting concept.

Good luck with solving the handling issue.
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If it helps, Ive weighed my 350TS many times, no airbags. Packed to the gills with full water starting a 2 week trip my front axle had 6780lbs and rear had 14280lbs. Your 378 carries an extra 480lbs of unloaded vehicle weight somewhere, at least the 2009 model did.
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My 2012 378 is 3500 ks = 7,716 lb front and 6700 ks = 14,771 lb rear.
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