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Old 04-21-2015, 08:43 AM   #11
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i used the front and rear roadmaster bars, and they also made a huge difference. i suspect they are very similar to the hell wigs. front is a replacement, rear is a supplement to stock. 1 3/4" vs the stock 1 5/8" in the rear...that extra 1/8" does make a big difference.....

the other thing i did was install jounce replacement sumo springs. posted it in another thread here. they took it up to another level again...very well worth the money....if you want to make it even better, do it....
not only larger in diameter but shorter in length compared to OE... and for anyone that knows mechanical engineering, that is a MUCH stiffer beam.

I'll ask my buddy George at Champion Frame in Elgin and see what he thinks about adding the Sumo springs. I know he likes the rear end track bar and a steering damper stabilizer.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:07 PM   #12
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I am waiting to take a trip in my mh before i make any more changes.
Yes the front sway bar is much easier to replace than the rear. The front bar will be the next change if this is not enough.
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:23 PM   #13
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not only larger in diameter but shorter in length compared to OE... and for anyone that knows mechanical engineering, that is a MUCH stiffer beam.

I'll ask my buddy George at Champion Frame in Elgin and see what he thinks about adding the Sumo springs. I know he likes the rear end track bar and a steering damper stabilizer.
interested to hear what he says....

i've never had a problem with my steering...it has always felt good to me; not sure what the steering dampener/stabilizer would add....

and with the sway bar improvement does the rear end track bar really add anything ?
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interested to hear what he says....

i've never had a problem with my steering...it has always felt good to me; not sure what the steering dampener/stabilizer would add....

and with the sway bar improvement does the rear end track bar really add anything ?
The rear end track bar keeps the rear end from moving laterally.

He says the steering damper helps in case of a sudden blow out.

My inclination is to put the tire pressure monitor system on and forego the damper.
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The rear end track bar keeps the rear end from moving laterally.

He says the steering damper helps in case of a sudden blow out.

My inclination is to put the tire pressure monitor system on and forego the damper.

I agree, nothing is perfect but with the TPMS, the idea is to see that blow out long before it happens.

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You can't see a blowout(by deffination is sudden/rapid) before it happens. If the blowout is on the front tires you could lose control of the vehicle. The TPMS is to catch slow leeks. Here is what I think the damper/stabilizer, track bar and sway bar are for.

Stabilizer attaches to the steering arm and the frame.Works like a shock to prevent sudden & quick movement of the steering likeyou would have with a blowout on the front of the vehicle, hitting a chuckholeor ruts in the pavement. It is a safety device.

TRACK BAR attaches to the frame and the axel to keepthe body and the wheels tracking together but still allows up & downmovement. With only the shocks and springs attaching the frame to the wheelsthere is lateral movement between the two.

SWAY BAR(ANTI-SWAYBAR) attaches to axel & frame to keep the body from leaning too far offthe wheels . Stops the feeling that you are going to roll over.
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The cheap fix on the sway bars(front and rear) effectly makes the sway bars shorter.
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To me the point being is that no matter what you have installed and what it is suppose to do.....grant it everything you do to protect yourself might help if you can justify spending the money but in reality on any given situation ie speed, you taking a sip of of coffee or taking a quick glance over your shoulder to say something to your wife or one of the grand kids, you don't know how your vehicle will react in a blow out but in all cases an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of flesh or how ever that saying goes....be safe out there.

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You can't see a blowout(by deffination is sudden/rapid) before it happens. If the blowout is on the front tires you could lose control of the vehicle. The TPMS is to catch slow leeks. Here is what I think the damper/stabilizer, track bar and sway bar are for.

Stabilizer attaches to the steering arm and the frame.Works like a shock to prevent sudden & quick movement of the steering likeyou would have with a blowout on the front of the vehicle, hitting a chuckholeor ruts in the pavement. It is a safety device.

TRACK BAR attaches to the frame and the axel to keepthe body and the wheels tracking together but still allows up & downmovement. With only the shocks and springs attaching the frame to the wheelsthere is lateral movement between the two.

SWAY BAR(ANTI-SWAYBAR) attaches to axel & frame to keep the body from leaning too far offthe wheels . Stops the feeling that you are going to roll over.
TST systems monitors show temperature and pressure. you set alerts for low and high pressure and low and high temp. unless a tire is clearly defective, or unless you hit a substantial object in the road, a tire will not just blow. it will get hot first. very hot compared to where it should be. all the studies on tire failure point to this. so the monitors, to me, IMHO, are a much better device dollar for dollar than a steering stabilizer. but i may still add a steering stabilizer anyway, just to see what it does. i am lucky, i can afford it. but if i could only do one, it would be the TST monitors.

the sumo springs are designed to work in conjunction with the sway bar, to lessen side roll. i have thought about putting a track bar on. there is only so much, though, that you can dampen the movement of the coach, before the energy that is absorbed by the coach (the energy has to go somewhere, so it goes into the materials) will start to beat the coach up. and we know that some parts of these coaches are not always the highest quality material or the best quality workmanship. so i don't want to slap on too much stuff to dampen movement, only to make things so stiff that the coach starts to shake itself apart....
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I plan on putting on a tire monitor.
It's great that we have the forum to pass on ideas and experinces.
the quality of my georgetown is not what I had hoped for but maybe it's the best they can do for the money but there are a lot of small things that you would think that they could get right.
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