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Old 07-16-2013, 11:23 AM   #1
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OK, so I was at the dealer the other day and observed a customer bring in a 2014 GT XL. His frame was bent and you could easily see that his rear leveling jacks were also bent. After hearing the story it appeared to me that this was a user error; however, it prompted another discussion. The service manager brought up that the GT series should never lift the wheels off the ground when leveling. I advised that on several occasions, even on a level camp site, my unit lifts one or two wheels off the ground. The service advisor advised that the jacks were not made to support the weight of the unit and will bend the frame. I called Lippert, and they said, while it is not what they would want, it is OK for the unit to lift off the ground to creat a level environment. What do you guys think?
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:14 PM   #2
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We have the Lippert System on our 5'er. I was told the same thing, it is ok for the wheels to be lifted but not ok to leave them like that.

The more points you have in contact with the ground the more stable your rig is going to be. Buy or make some leveling blocks and get the unit close, then drop the jacks. You may need more blocks/wood for them to reach depending on how bad your out of level.

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We have the Lippert System on our 5'er. I was told the same thing, it is ok for the wheels to be lifted but not ok to leave them like that.

The more points you have in contact with the ground the more stable your rig is going to be. Buy or make some leveling blocks and get the unit close, then drop the jacks. You may need more blocks/wood for them to reach depending on how bad your out of level.

Just my .02 worth.
Thanks for the input. I have never seen a motor home with their wheels on anything. That is something I use to do with our travel trailers. Lippert said it WAS ok to leave the wheels off the ground while camping. Its just like you said, better to have more points touching the ground.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:41 PM   #4
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I noticed on my 378 if I use auto jacks it always lifts the 2 back tires off the ground. The dealers tells me this is bad not to do. So to avoid I always use a level and manually do it.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:41 PM   #5
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My MH will lift the tires off the ground if it is not level. I will drive up on blocks and then auto level, works great, good luck.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:59 PM   #6
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Thanks for all the good replies but I am now more confused than ever. First, the shafts in the system are only so long. If I drive up on blocks that puts the system further from the ground and in some cases will not reach. Also, all the camping sites I camp on are very level for the most part, that is why I do not understand why it lifts the wheels off the ground. Second, the dealer suggested the manual leveling, but my question to that is why have an automatic leveling system if I have to spend the time to level manually. This is my second MH and I am about ready to go back to a travel trailer. There is also the issue that just because it looks like the wheels are on the ground the jacks may still be supporting all the weight because of the sag in the shocks. Oh well. Thanks all. I do not know what I would do without this forum. You are all very knowledgable.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:22 PM   #7
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Two things: First I would strongly suggest you never lift the REAR wheels off the ground. The parking brake only effects the rear wheels and if they are lifted off the ground you have no fore and aft control of your MH. And if you have wheels off the ground you are already on a hill. Big OOOPPPS waiting to happen.
And second: We stay at mostly state parks and rarely find a level spot. Frequently we are parked with the front wheels off the ground. If we find a campsite that slopes from front to back we either ask for another site or leave! I will never lift the rear tires off the ground. We are now at a Vermont State Park until the middle of October and the front wheels are a good 15" off the ground. We workamp so I just ask for some spare wood materials to build up what I need up front. In our current case it took two steps of lifting the front, putting cribbing under the front tires, lowering the front and adding cribbing under the jacks, lifting the front again, adding more to the tire stack, lowering and adding to the jack stack then leveling front to back. The front jacks are only extended about 2 to 3 inches and are rock solid. after leveling front to back I put the rear jacks down till they just begin to lift then I fine tuning side to side. I never use the auto mode for the Lippert system because the first time I used it the rear tires were lifted till off the ground. Never again! Hope this helps.
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I was having a problem with wheels coming of the ground when auto levelling. I have re set the settings by the instructions in the Lippert manual. Those instructions are on the Lippert web sit if you don't have them. It sure is nice to pull in and hit auto level and have it work.
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I noticed on my 378 if I use auto jacks it always lifts the 2 back tires off the ground. The dealers tells me this is bad not to do. So to avoid I always use a level and manually do it.
Read the manual on Zeroing your control panel. It may help you.
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OK, so I was at the dealer the other day and observed a customer bring in a 2014 GT XL. His frame was bent and you could easily see that his rear leveling jacks were also bent. After hearing the story it appeared to me that this was a user error; however, it prompted another discussion. The service manager brought up that the GT series should never lift the wheels off the ground when leveling. I advised that on several occasions, even on a level camp site, my unit lifts one or two wheels off the ground. The service advisor advised that the jacks were not made to support the weight of the unit and will bend the frame. I called Lippert, and they said, while it is not what they would want, it is OK for the unit to lift off the ground to creat a level environment. What do you guys think?
The reason I bought a Class A was so I could run the air while traveling, pull in, push a button (jacks), push a few more buttons (slides), push a another button (awning) all while being in a nice air conditioned environment. Once my fingers take a good rest, I can then go out and hook up the electric, water and sewer. Sometimes my front tires come off the ground, but never my back. By the way, the Lippert system only allows a certain amount of extension between all the jacks. If you have the front fully extended you can't fully extend the back. Same side to side. Also, if you try to extend the jacks when the RV is too far out of level (not safe) the "Excessive Angle" light will come on and your jacks won't deploy. Keep it easy....push the button.
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