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Old 01-02-2018, 01:42 PM   #1
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New to me 2016 GT 364 TS some questions.

Hello everyone,
We just picked up previously enjoyed 2016 364 TS and took it out for the first time over the weekend. We have had other DP's in the past but I have some questions, "yes I have done a search" lol. Any input is appreciated

1. We have the residential fridge, how long should the power stay on just using the inverter? We boon-docked and would wake up in the morning and the fridge would be off. Its only lasting 4-6 hours.

2. If I did solar how many watts would I need to keep the batteries topped off and fridge on?

3. Is the connector for the outside BBQ just a standard air compressor chuck fitting?
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:18 PM   #2
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Do you have 6 volt or 12 volt batteries, and how many coach batteries? How many volts were you reading before and after?
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:14 PM   #3
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when we are boon docking I go to bed around 11 and I turn off the frig after it has a full charge and the freezer does not get above 32 when I get up.. Then we start up our EU2000 and give it a morning charge and turn back on the frig for the day.. Works great
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Hello everyone,
We just picked up previously enjoyed 2016 364 TS and took it out for the first time over the weekend. We have had other DP's in the past but I have some questions, "yes I have done a search" lol. Any input is appreciated

1. We have the residential fridge, how long should the power stay on just using the inverter? We boon-docked and would wake up in the morning and the fridge would be off. Its only lasting 4-6 hours.

2. If I did solar how many watts would I need to keep the batteries topped off and fridge on?

3. Is the connector for the outside BBQ just a standard air compressor chuck fitting?
I have a 2015 351 same setup though. I can usually get 24-48 hours before I need a charge. however we run the generator for a couple hours a day and have never ran out of juice.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:43 PM   #5
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I have a 2017 364TS and believe it is almost exactly the same. I have only boondocked a few times overnight. I never turned frig off. I just left doors closed . It was a little warmer in am but after starting generator cooled back down . I heard it was to last 8-9 hours on the inverter. I have 4 batteries plus one under the hood.
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Old 01-03-2018, 05:11 PM   #6
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Well...lots of folks with the residential fridge that boon-dock add a pair of 6Volt batteries to support the fridge/inverter needs. This gives roughly 200 amp hours of extra capacity or 100 usable which should be plenty.
If you've got the standard configuration and batteries from the factory...especially if they've been sitting around before you got it...you've probably got some meaningful loss of capacity.
When you have a chance..
1. Plug in and Fully Charge your batteries
2. Disconnect the negative wire from the batteries.
3. Let sit 24 hours ... no cheating!
4. Measure voltage at battery terminals with a voltmeter. OR measure specific gravity of all cells with a turkey baster (hydrometer) (top off with distilled water BEFORE charging if using this method. )
Here's a chart that will show you how good or bad your batteries are. Any measurement below 80% shows significant wear...and anything below about 60% if virtually useless for boondocking but is still fine for just plugging in use in campgrounds. Anything below 40% is toast.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:57 AM   #7
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Do folks use just any 6 volt batteries.. And why 6 volt and not more 12 volt batteries?
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:29 PM   #8
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My fridge will run for at least 24hrs on the 4 6v batteries in my '16 364. Have done it many times and still have juice to spare.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:32 PM   #9
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Do folks use just any 6 volt batteries.. And why 6 volt and not more 12 volt batteries?
6v have more capacity and last longer than multiple 12v. 6v batteries do vary in capacity size, the bigger the capacity, the more expensive but the longer they will hold a charge.
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Old 01-04-2018, 02:36 PM   #10
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6Volt are ALL designed for deep cycle use...commonly known as golf cart batteries... so you have no worries about dual purpose v. deep cycle manufacturer's labels. A pair gives you about 210 amp hours which is the equivilent of a pair of 12V deep cycle Group 31's....but they can generally be gotten cheaper and so are popular.
If one deep cycle 12V fails...the other can be used to run things. Not so with a pair of 6Vs...so I prefer to recommend 6V's in groups of 4 (2 pairs of 12Volts) but many don't worry about a single battery failure.
There ARE significant differences between different brands of 6 volt batteries EVEN WHEN the amp hour ratings are similar. You can get the bargains at the Costcos and Sams and they offer good performance at a helluva price...But...there are other brands that offer better cases/resistance to vibration and significantly more cycles to 50% depth of discharge. To be clear...you are buying amp hours delivered over a lifetime of the battery. If a $100 buck 200amp hour battery delivers 300 cycles to 50% (100amphours) then you get 30000 amp hours for 100 bucks or 300 amp hours per dollar invested.
Now if a $200 buck 200amp hour battery delivered 1000 cycles to 50% ...100000 amp hours .... you'd be getting the way better long term deal by far.

Unfortunately...the cheap batts never quantify their expected performance and you even have to dig a bit to get the same info from the premium brands.
I personally think that the various models of Trojan batts are a good balance between construction, long life and reliability ...while being a bit more expensive than the warehouse brands. That said...I wouldn't fault anyone for buying the cheaper spread from the clubs.
There are also high end solutions like AGM, TPPL/AGM, CarbonFoam and Lithium ...which range from 200% to 1000% higher than the equivilent size wet cell. We'll save those for another day!
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All this makes me glad we have an electric and propane refer. Why they went to residential I haven’t a cue except they are cheaper. Personally, if I boondocked a lot I would spring for an upgrade to a electric/propane. That’s just me.
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Old 01-04-2018, 04:17 PM   #12
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The thing with residential in a MH is that there is an onboard genny, and a couple hours or so a day and the battery bank is charged.
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The thing with residential in a MH is that there is an onboard genny, and a couple hours or so a day and the battery bank is charged.


And I don’t have to run a generator at all. A small solar charger and I’m good to go for long stays. If I never boondocked the residential refer “might” be a better option as is no thanks, IMHO.
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And I rarely boondock more than 2-3 days, but during those times I like to enjoy the conveniences of my coach, which require more than battery operation.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:48 PM   #15
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Thank you all for the great responses. The batteries are the original 12v, Im thinking of replacing them with 4-6 6v batteries and a 400w solar system.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:27 PM   #16
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The batteries I believe are supposed to run the fridge for 11 hours. we have the same year and model and had never had any problems with the fridge turning off during the night until this last trip. six hours was the max before shutting off. not sure if it is the batteries getting older. I am checking water levels in the batteries this weekend. good luck
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