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Old 12-02-2013, 07:43 PM   #1
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newb with freeze protect question?

I keep my GT328 in an inside RV storage unit year round but don't want to winterize as I plan to use it and go South later in the month. Our average low temps for Dec and Jan are about 30F but on rare occasions it can get down to 20-25F , and I am concerned about inside bay temps? I am wondering about adding a light bulb or small space heater to water /sewer compartment below to keep water lines from freezing? There is a 120v recepticle in each RV storage bay ( I assume 15amp? for battery chargers ). I thought I had read somewhere in this forum about the "light bulb" idea but not sure?

The storage unit is a long metal bldg and is not insulated. I am in the middle of a 30 bay unit and will get some insulation from the units on either side. Each unit is completely enclosed with a large roll up door on one end. We rarely get down in the 20's but it can happen and just wanted some input.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:19 PM   #2
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The light bulbs will work as long as you have power to your space. between the light bulbs and other units, that will provide some protection you should be ok. I would put a t-stat in the RV and have a remote unit in the storage bay so you can see what the temps are at a quick glance.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:11 PM   #3
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Use something like this to control the heater and you might be okay heating the bay to 35.
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:41 PM   #4
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Heater

We use one of those oil/electric small radiator type heaters, there is a freeze setting on the control knob which allows the unit to come on when the temperature reach's 36 degree (F). When the heater comes on, it operates at a much higher setting to get the temperature around it back up to above 36 degrees. Have also used these on my houseboat, even in the engine compartment and main cabin during the winter months, now in the RV's, always worked well for us, even now as we speak:


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Old 12-02-2013, 10:09 PM   #5
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LKickLight, the oil heaters are not ignition protected, not a good idea in the engine compartment, the thermostat can spark.
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they worked fine when I use them, sold the boat, not a problem any longer! thanks
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:04 PM   #7
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To you have low point drains under your unit. You can open those and then open the faucets and must of the water will drain out. You can buy an attachment to blow out the lines to add additional security from freezing. Do the above you would not have to worry above freezing even with antifreeze and/or a heat source
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:57 AM   #8
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It has been 25 to 27 every night here> I do not winterize for the same reason I put a 1500 watt heater in the unit with all my cabinet doors open where theres plumbing. I also run my tank heaters on. I have a remote stat in the basement it never gotten below 41 down there, you should be fine. I also leave my hot water tank on. been doing it this way for 2 years never a problem I use it during the winter so I do not want to do the whole ball of wax each time. works for me.
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It has been 25 to 27 every night here> I do not winterize for the same reason I put a 1500 watt heater in the unit with all my cabinet doors open where theres plumbing. I also run my tank heaters on. I have a remote stat in the basement it never gotten below 41 down there, you should be fine. I also leave my hot water tank on. been doing it this way for 2 years never a problem I use it during the winter so I do not want to do the whole ball of wax each time. works for me.
This is pretty much our approach as well. I do place a 75Watt trouble light inside the water connection /outside shower bay when it gets down in low 20's for peace of mind. That compartment seems to be the most vulnerable of all, not being insulated at all, and with the outside shower and water supply lines very much exposed. So I also placed some 1/2 in flexible foam insulation in that bay, and recently on a 20-degree night it stayed in the upper 40's in that compartment.

Also, if it does get lower 20's or colder, we'll set the furnace thermostat such that it will kick on periodically (even w/ the supplemental heat from the oil filled heater) so it circulates some warmth into the fresh water bay below.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:49 PM   #10
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Compartment

We have a compartment similar in the wall just behind the toilet, it is accessible from inside, so a light bulb would work great in there for the winter. Think I'll stick one in there with a timer when I go back up Saturday. The Crusader has the low point drain system, which works great during winter. Draining everything works about as well as blowing the lines out, done that also, so should be fine. Put plenty of pink stuff in all the P-Traps and Toilet Bowl: Along with the Oil Heater sit on Freeze setting:



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This is pretty much our approach as well. I do place a 75Watt trouble light inside the water connection /outside shower bay when it gets down in low 20's for peace of mind. That compartment seems to be the most vulnerable of all, not being insulated at all, and with the outside shower and water supply lines very much exposed. So I also placed some 1/2 in flexible foam insulation in that bay, and recently on a 20-degree night it stayed in the upper 40's in that compartment.

Also, if it does get lower 20's or colder, we'll set the furnace thermostat such that it will kick on periodically (even w/ the supplemental heat from the oil filled heater) so it circulates some warmth into the fresh water bay below.
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