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Old 01-12-2019, 11:51 AM   #11
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I ran with your suggestion. Pulled the circuit panel off and felt for loose wiring. All wires going to breakers are tight. There are a total of four outlets not working. It would be a big coincidence for wiring to come loose on all four. Just to rule out the idea. I pulled one outlet out (rear the fireplace), wiring is tight. The two under the bed will require removing everything out from under the bed and taking it apart by removing the wood paneling. I’m going to shelf that idea as a last resort.
Sounds like you do not have a GFI problem. Most MH's have a relay or switch that controls the Micro Wave and the fireplace and doesn't allow you to use both at the same time. It's called load sharing. As for the fridgerator outlet I would look (test) for a tripped breaker. Turn them all of then back on At least start at the panel. Remove the outlet for the fridge. If it has 2 romexs somthing else my be out also.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:33 PM   #12
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Check the outside compartment left of the steps.
This has a GFCI outlet and I think its the one you are looking for.
Unless you have a tripped 120 volt breaker and it needs to be turned off then back on to reset.

Good Luck and let us know if that it.
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Now that you have owned your 378TS for almost a year I would think you need to look around and check things out before further emergencies happen.
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If you do have any questions ask away as I have owned mine for almost 7 years and know ever inch of her.
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I am aware of the outlet in the compartment next to stairs. Iíve checked it three times thinking Iíve overlooked something. Your right, it is a GFI outlet.!I did not notice it to be a GFI protected. The sticker declaring it a GFI protected outlet has peeled back. However this type of GFI outlet is not equipped with an test/reset button or LED indicator. It does have power and works when tested with a plugged device. As for the 120 volt breaker, I only know of the main A/C circuit breaker panel and all the breakers are closed giving me no indication the problem is there. I bought my motorhome in 2012, first time owner. Iím only 45 and think I know my MH pretty well, but new problems arise and become frustrating at times. Itís always breaking, tripping, blowing, and leaking. My patience is constantly tested. I know it is not like a house where you can work the bugs. The wear of moving, vibrating, switching to different electric powers sources/water pressures create problems. These entry level units are not built for durability, just enough get it out the door and to bedazzle the consumer to buy it.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:34 PM   #13
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Did you check the one outside in the compartment left of the steps?
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:52 PM   #14
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One of the most common misconceptions in the electrical world is the difference between a GFCI receptacle and a GFI outlet. There is actually no difference at all.

A common conversation when discussing receptacles may be referring to a ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI) as simply a ground fault interrupter (GFI.) They are generally the exact same thing.

Although this may be a confusing concept for those unfamiliar with electrical products you cannot go wrong with either terms. Though, many electricians may more commonly use GFCI receptacle as opposed to GFI receptacle in dialogue.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:58 PM   #15
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Did you check the one outside in the compartment left of the steps?


I did. The outlet in the compartment next to the steps works fine. Iggy, your suggestion to look at that area and the regulations that all outlets outside required to be GFI protected. Sent me back outside to look at the refrigerator outlet. Which is what I suspected. It has the same funky design as the GFI outlet in the compartment next to the stairs. No decal too. It has to be embossed with GFI in tiny dust covered letters. IDK. But...after running an extension cord from a know good source of power to the refrigerator plug. The refrigerator is working. So, Iím going to start with looking closer at this outlet to see if it can be reset or just replace it. Maybe the bedroom and outlet next to the fireplace are piggy back off it.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:04 PM   #16
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You may have to pull outlets and check the connections in the back. FR uses punch-down type outlets in many of its RVs rather than screw terminals. Many times these will make marginal connections allowing the outlet to function until a higher current is demanded. The higher current can cause the connection to fail and all downstream outlets will no longer have power. You may want to replace the outlets with screw-down outlets while you have them out if you have enough slack in the Romex.
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I did. The outlet in the compartment next to the steps works fine. Iggy, your suggestion to look at that area and the regulations that all outlets outside required to be GFI protected. Sent me back outside to look at the refrigerator outlet. Which is what I suspected. It has the same funky design as the GFI outlet in the compartment next to the stairs. No decal too. It has to be embossed with GFI in tiny dust covered letters. IDK. But...after running an extension cord from a know good source of power to the refrigerator plug. The refrigerator is working. So, Iím going to start with looking closer at this outlet to see if it can be reset or just replace it. Maybe the bedroom and outlet next to the fireplace are piggy back off it.


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ID:	194428here is a picture of the refrigerator outlet. It clearly does not say or embossed with GFI. Iíll have to investigate later today.
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Sounds like you do not have a GFI problem. Most MH's have a relay or switch that controls the Micro Wave and the fireplace and doesn't allow you to use both at the same time. It's called load sharing. As for the fridgerator outlet I would look (test) for a tripped breaker. Turn them all of then back on At least start at the panel. Remove the outlet for the fridge. If it has 2 romexs somthing else my be out also.


All great suggestions. My MH I can operate the microwave and fireplace at the same time. No issue with both. The fireplace has only been mentioned to describe the location of one of the outlets not working, next to the fireplace in my particular 378XL layout. All the breakers on the circuit breaker panel have been checked as mentioned and donít seem to be the source of the problem. They have all been opened and closed (turned on/off). I will be looking at the refrigerator outlet. I now suspect itís my problem.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:43 PM   #19
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Attachment 194428here is a picture of the refrigerator outlet. It clearly does not say or embossed with GFI. I’ll have to investigate later today.
No, it is not a GFI outlet and should NOT be supplied by one. Remove your breaker panel cover and be sure that all connection screws are tight.

can you show us a picture of you breaker panel label?
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:49 PM   #20
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No, it is not a GFI outlet and should NOT be supplied by one.


I was wrong about a couple things. The refrigerator out is not a GFI out let and the one on the lower compartment is not a GFI outlets. The two are identical. I was mistaking thinking the peeled back decal on the outlet in the lower compartment said, GFI outlet, when in fact it only say ďthis outlet is protected by GFIĒ. That means back to my original question, where is this other GFI outlet that protects the outlets not working?
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