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03-07-2018, 09:36 PM
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One circuit is out. Can't find the breaker
So we are sitting here in our 31b3 and the TV dies. All outlets on one side of the rv are out. I reset all of the breakers at the end of the bed and no change. Any suggestions on what to do?0we are day 1 of basically our first camping trip with it.
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03-07-2018, 09:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclinton
So we are sitting here in our 31b3 and the TV dies. All outlets on one side of the rv are out. I reset all of the breakers at the end of the bed and no change. Any suggestions on what to do?0we are day 1 of basically our first camping trip with it.
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Look for a GFI receptacle. Reset. Probably in the bathroom.
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03-07-2018, 09:42 PM
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X2 what cave said
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03-07-2018, 09:46 PM
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First place I went and it is good. The opposite side of the rv is having the issue.
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03-07-2018, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bclinton
First place I went and it is good. The opposite side of the rv is having the issue.
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Not familiar with your rig. I did learn that some have 3 GFI's. does your inverter have power?
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03-07-2018, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cavie
Not familiar with your rig. I did learn that some have 3 GFI's. does your inverter have power?
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I don't have an inverter.
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03-07-2018, 10:10 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Do you have a 50 or 30 amp service?
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03-07-2018, 10:10 PM
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Do you have a 50 or 30 amp service?
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03-07-2018, 10:17 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Ok. Ruling out the split feeds of a 50 amp service means you have power inside if other 120v outlets work since a 30 amp service is a single 120v feed.
You mentioned finding one GFCI outlet, have you found any others? As mentioned there are usually two and sometimes three. One might be located in an outside compartment but not always.
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03-07-2018, 10:20 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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GFCI outlets feed and protect other (downstream) outlets. If you can't find any, you are going to have to start doing some electrical troubleshooting. Do you own a multimeter and know how to use it?
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03-07-2018, 10:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Ok. Ruling out the split feeds of a 50 amp service means you have power inside if other 120v outlets work since a 30 amp service is a single 120v feed.
You mentioned finding one GFCI outlet, have you found any others? As mentioned there are usually two and sometimes three. One might be located in an outside compartment but not always.
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I checked the compartments. Found one outlet on the door side of the rv with a gfi label which looks like it is fed from my bathroom and is good.
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03-07-2018, 10:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
GFCI outlets feed and protect other (downstream) outlets. If you can't find any, you are going to have to start doing some electrical troubleshooting. Do you own a multimeter and know how to use it?
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Yes I have a multi meter.
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03-07-2018, 10:24 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bclinton
I checked the compartments. Found one outlet on the door side of the rv with a gfi label which looks like it is fed from my bathroom and is good.
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Yes, outlets with a GFCI Protected label are fed from an upstream GFCI. Usually there is one in the bathroom and another in the kitchen but again, no two rigs are the same.
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03-07-2018, 10:25 PM
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Quote:
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Yes I have a multi meter.
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I have found 6 outlets that are dead.... Primarily the TVs. None of them have the gfi sticker on them like the outlets on the opposite side.
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03-07-2018, 10:28 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Do you have a separate breaker in your breaker box for outlets other than those marked GFCI?
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03-07-2018, 10:29 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Can you post a photo of your breakers and the labeling?
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03-07-2018, 10:37 PM
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Though I'm not familiar with your RV, check for a gfci at the kitchen sink counter. I have one at the end of my kitchen sink and one at the bathroom sink, even though they are on same side of the TT and within 5' of each other.
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03-07-2018, 10:40 PM
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Quote:
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Can you post a photo of your breakers and the labeling?
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Thanks all the suggestions folks... 
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03-07-2018, 10:42 PM
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The general breaker would have been my guess but it did not have an effect on my dead outlets...
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03-07-2018, 10:46 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Ok. You have a double pole, single space breaker for the outlets. One lever is for the GFCI outlets and the other is for the general outlets. If you have reset them both, are you comfortable removing the panel and checking for current coming out of the breaker with your meter?
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